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TheMaster
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: PussyFart]
#22462796 - 11/01/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's OK to be wrong, dude. That is how people learn.
When someone points out that I am misinformed I typically say something like, "wow, yeah you were right, thanks for reducing my ignorance".
At the end of the day, I'm going to trust the CDC's guidelines when it comes to necessary definitions of sterility, not yours.
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spacechildo
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: TheMaster]
#22462802 - 11/01/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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you clearly dont understand what the cdc page said. explain to me how h2o2 and lumens are connected... 
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TheMaster said: When someone points out that I am misinformed I typically say something like, "wow, yeah you were right, thanks for reducing my ignorance".
good! now thank pussyfart and move along
Edited by spacechildo (11/01/15 03:15 PM)
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TheMaster
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: spacechildo]
#22462838 - 11/01/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess you didn't take the time to read the link I posted. Here is another little piece. Feel free to read more if you'd like to learn more about the process. In this particular usage of hydrogen peroxide as a sterilant, free radicals are formed via radiowaves. I'm not trying to get in a pissing match here. I happen to have a bit of experience with these types of systems. This is but one of many methods that use hydrogen peroxide, alone or in combination with other chemical species, to sterlize surfaces.
In the late 1980s the first hydrogen peroxide gas plasma system for sterilization of medical and surgical devices was field-tested. According to the manufacturer, the sterilization chamber is evacuated and hydrogen peroxide solution is injected from a cassette and is vaporized in the sterilization chamber to a concentration of 6 mg/l. The hydrogen peroxide vapor diffuses through the chamber (50 minutes), exposes all surfaces of the load to the sterilant, and initiates the inactivation of microorganisms. An electrical field created by a radio frequency is applied to the chamber to create a gas plasma. Microbicidal free radicals (e.g., hydroxyl and hydroperoxyl) are generated in the plasma. The excess gas is removed and in the final stage (i.e., vent) of the process the sterilization chamber is returned to atmospheric pressure by introduction of high-efficiency filtered air. The by-products of the cycle (e.g., water vapor, oxygen) are nontoxic and eliminate the need for aeration.
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Edited by TheMaster (11/01/15 07:19 PM)
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spacechildo
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: TheMaster]
#22462857 - 11/01/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I swear this happens every time pubbers venture into mush cult...
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TheMaster
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: spacechildo]
#22462885 - 11/01/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not a pubber, more of a lurker really.
I just don't like seeing people acting like they know everything about a topic some have devoted their lives to. When it comes to stuff like this, I know my shit. The info is out there if you take the time to research it.
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spacechildo
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: TheMaster]
#22462896 - 11/01/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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and we're here trying to teach people how to grow, it gets kinda annoying when we have to clean up after other peoples bad advice constantly.
devoted your life to h2o2...good for you!
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: spacechildo]
#22462910 - 11/01/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The answer is simple, you cant sterilize a sab and keep it sterile keep it simple and get it wet,sabs are great because they are cheap and effective.
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TheMaster
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: spacechildo]
#22462943 - 11/01/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol. I agree. It's too bad really; so many threads with the same dated info are out there. This wasn't the best place for this type of thread. That's part of why I recommended the OP repost in the chemistry board where it would be better received.
I don't think there is any need for hostility though. It's nice if everyone can maintain some level of civility and not takes things too personally.
I've devoted my life to engineering and science. The first step if you don't know something is to do research and make as few assumptions as possible in the process.
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: TheMaster]
#22462960 - 11/01/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is just no feasable way to do what the op wants to, better off just attaching a mister to the bottle and going traditional.
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for container, chamber, glove box sterilization? [Re: PussyFart]
#22463525 - 11/01/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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PussyFart said: I thought it would be a good idea to fill a humidifier with hydrogen peroxide solution and pipe the vapor into the container, glove box, or fruiting chamber effectively sterilizing every nook and cranny.
Chemicals sanitize, heat sterilizes.
There is no need for peroxide in this hobby outside of treating cobweb mold.
Also I've seen a lot of your grows, and you often lose plenty of your hard work to contamination.
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for container, chamber, glove box sterilization? [Re: trees]
#22463532 - 11/01/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You here to argue or discuss shit?
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impatientguy
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for container, chamber, glove box sterilization? [Re: trees]
#22463713 - 11/01/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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trees said:
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PussyFart said:
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PussyFart said: I thought it would be a good idea to fill a humidifier with hydrogen peroxide solution and pipe the vapor into the container, glove box, or fruiting chamber effectively sterilizing every nook and cranny.
Chemicals sanitize, heat sterilizes.
There is no need for peroxide in this hobby outside of treating cobweb mold.
Also I've seen a lot of your grows, and you often lose plenty of your hard work to contamination.
Lol at this point it's just to be a dick.
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cronicr



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Re: Vaporizing H202 for container, chamber, glove box sterilization? [Re: impatientguy]
#22463723 - 11/01/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Getting to that point myself
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spacechildo
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for container, chamber, glove box sterilization? [Re: impatientguy]
#22463780 - 11/01/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol, how it goes again, if you cant post without showing..respect...hmm..nah cant remember
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PussyFart
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for container, chamber, glove box sterilization? [Re: trees]
#22463918 - 11/01/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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trees said: Also I've seen a lot of your grows, and you often lose plenty of your hard work to contamination.
Yea, shit happens......
This doesn't mean anything tho.

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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT! A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD, SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List, EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE *** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
Edited by PussyFart (11/01/15 07:31 PM)
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impatientguy
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for container, chamber, glove box sterilization? [Re: cronicr]
#22464216 - 11/01/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So was I.
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: trees]
#22662369 - 12/16/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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There is a ton of disinfo on the topics of peroxide and O3 on shroomery from people with a lot of mushroom growing experience . I've heard this stuff will "kill you". Hehe, ... so will a car, so will bleach, so will lysol if you drink it!
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PussyFart
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: nitrodigital]
#22662394 - 12/16/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's all about the context......
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: PussyFart]
#22662967 - 12/16/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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you bet,... its all poison unless used in the correct concentration, and used responsibly. I agree it can kill you if not used correctly but these things have many uses if used responsibly.
Edited by nitrodigital (12/18/15 02:25 PM)
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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: nitrodigital]
#22664294 - 12/16/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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i almost remember this thread, i love drugs
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