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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: PussyFart]
    #22461064 - 11/01/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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PF what happened man?



Cocaine......but what are you referring to?




I meant your weird triple post where you somehow quoted yourself saying something you didn't say.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22461191 - 11/01/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

This was obviously the wrong board to ask about vaporized h2o2. Nobody here has any knowledge on chemistry. Bunch of fucking retards.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: trees]
    #22461202 - 11/01/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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This was obviously the wrong board to ask about vaporized h2o2. Nobody here has any knowledge on chemistry. Bunch of fucking retards.



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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22461255 - 11/01/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't know how stable H202 is when vaporized by a humidifier, maybe a chemist who knows can chime in?

I thought it would be a good idea to fill a humidifier with hydrogen peroxide solution and pipe the vapor into the container, glove box, or fruiting chamber effectively sterilizing every nook and cranny.

I know that H202 is not very stable and might decompose in the ultra sonic vaporizer?



Chemicals sanitize, heat and filtration sterilize.

There is no need for peroxide in this hobby outside of treating cobweb mold.




At the proper concentrations and with the appropriate engineering, hydrogen peroxide is indeed a sterilant.
http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/Disinfection_Sterilization/13_02sterilization.html
Microbicidal Activity. This process has the ability to inactivate a broad range of microorganisms, including resistant bacterial spores. Studies have been conducted against vegetative bacteria (including mycobacteria), yeasts, fungi, viruses, and bacterial spores469, 721, 856, 881-883, 890-893. Like all sterilization processes, the effectiveness can be altered by lumen length, lumen diameter, inorganic salts, and organic materials469, 721, 855, 856, 890, 891, 893.


Trees, you're probably not going to be able to accomplish your goal with over the counter hydrogen peroxide. At that low of concentration the sporicidal activity will be greatly dimished. Peracetic acid in combination with low concentration hydrogen peroxide would boost efficacy as a sterilant. Also, this technique also requires you initiate free radical generation of the hydrogen peroxide. It seems a bit out of reach for what most people have available to them.

You had an excellent idea, one which great minds have already devised and implemented with success. However, for what you aim to accomplish this technique is dangerous and would most likely prove difficult to procure the necessary components.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22461264 - 11/01/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:facepalm:

OP you dont have the equipment to do that. and its pointless when all you need is soap and water + good SAB technique.

its not just h2o2 put through a vaporizer :lol:


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: TheMaster]
    #22461268 - 11/01/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nobody is going to be able to use this method at home without dying so I'm not seeing the point in discussing it.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22461312 - 11/01/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

He had a great idea, one that many here quickly dismissed. If he had this idea thirty years ago he would be one rich sob had he patented it.

Having said that, it would probably be a better topic for the chemistry board.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: spacechildo]
    #22461316 - 11/01/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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all you need is soap and water + good SAB technique.




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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: TheMaster]
    #22461338 - 11/01/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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He had a great idea, one that many here quickly dismissed. If he had this idea thirty years ago he would be one rich sob had he patented it.

Having said that, it would probably be a better topic for the chemistry board.




We quickly dismiss it because it's dangerous and we get good success rates without sterilizing the air in our work area.  Some of us live with pets and children and people we don't want dead.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22461369 - 11/01/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i'm pretty sure this idea aint something new..


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22461381 - 11/01/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I doubt you can even get it to boiling without exponentially speeding up the rate at which it turns to water.




It was quickly dismissed because people didn't understand the chemistry behind what trees was talking about. You at least qualified your later reply by asking if this was taking place in a house.

When you have a TC saying that chemicals can't sterlize :facepalm:
Regardless of how impractical it is, this type of creativity should be encouraged, not criticized.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22461384 - 11/01/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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He had a great idea, one that many here quickly dismissed. If he had this idea thirty years ago he would be one rich sob had he patented it.

Having said that, it would probably be a better topic for the chemistry board.




We quickly dismiss it because it's dangerous and we get good success rates without sterilizing the air in our work area.  Some of us live with pets and children and people we don't want dead.




You dismiss it because your flat out stupid. Do you even know what hydrogen peroxide is? You think its dangerous - how did you figure that out? Did you know you can drink diluted concentrations of h2o2 and have no ill effect, while that same concentration you drank will kill 99.9% of all microbial life that it contacts. I'm not asking how to clean my glove box. I'm asking a question that regards chemistry.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: trees]
    #22461405 - 11/01/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

this is mush cult. you dont have the equipment to do this.
you're either trolling or just upset your idea wasnt a good one at all..


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: trees]
    #22461406 - 11/01/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: spacechildo]
    #22461417 - 11/01/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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this is mush cult. you dont have the equipment to do this.
you're either trolling or just upset your idea wasnt a good one at all..




You definitely do not know whether h2o2 will decompose after being passed over an ultra sonic humidifier bought at Walgreens.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: trees]
    #22461423 - 11/01/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I know it wont sterilize shit.

how are you gonna remove all humidity from the air first? and no, a walgreen vaporizer is not the correct equipment.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: spacechildo]
    #22461437 - 11/01/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I know it wont sterilize shit.

how are you gonna remove all humidity from the air first? and no, a walgreen vaporizer is not the correct equipment.



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I know it wont sterilize shit.

how are you gonna remove all humidity from the air first? and no, a walgreen vaporizer is not the correct equipment.




You're just another retard in the bunch.  Stop trying to assert what you have no knowledge to back up.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: trees]
    #22461440 - 11/01/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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He had a great idea, one that many here quickly dismissed. If he had this idea thirty years ago he would be one rich sob had he patented it.

Having said that, it would probably be a better topic for the chemistry board.




We quickly dismiss it because it's dangerous and we get good success rates without sterilizing the air in our work area.  Some of us live with pets and children and people we don't want dead.




You dismiss it because your flat out stupid. Do you even know what hydrogen peroxide is? You think its dangerous - how did you figure that out? Did you know you can drink diluted concentrations of h2o2 and have no ill effect, while that same concentration you drank will kill 99.9% of all microbial life that it contacts. I'm not asking how to clean my glove box. I'm asking a question that regards chemistry.




Then post it somewhere applicable instead of starting shit here, you fuck.


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: trees]
    #22461462 - 11/01/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I know it wont sterilize shit.

how are you gonna remove all humidity from the air first? and no, a walgreen vaporizer is not the correct equipment.



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I know it wont sterilize shit.

how are you gonna remove all humidity from the air first? and no, a walgreen vaporizer is not the correct equipment.




You're just another retard in the bunch.  Stop trying to assert what you have no knowledge to back up.




no, that's how it works. if you know this process so well why the fuck do you ask all these stupid questions then?


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Re: Vaporizing H202 for glove box sterilization? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22461469 - 11/01/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Then post it somewhere applicable instead of starting shit here, you fuck.




he's just another noob who gets butthurt when he dont get the answers he wants. he's a dime a dozen here unfortunately..


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