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How often do you trip on shrooms?
#22458572 - 10/31/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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For those who have an unlimited supply thanks to hunting or cultivating mushrooms, how often do you trip? Once every week, every month, seasonally, etc.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: ranman]
#22458606 - 10/31/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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There was a time when for about a year maybe a little longer I was eatin them once a week, occasionally more. Then I found steady LSD and have only eaten shrooms maybe a half a dozen times in the last two years.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Zombi3]
#22458653 - 10/31/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: There was a time when for about a year maybe a little longer I was eatin them once a week, occasionally more. Then I found steady LSD and have only eaten shrooms maybe a half a dozen times in the last two years.
How did you find the experience? Did you build up a tolerance? Did the trips become ho-hum?
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: ranman]
#22458670 - 10/31/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes and yes. I had a mad tolerance for a long time and it ruined other psychs too. After like 2 months there was barely any spiritual value to the trips, it was just getting high. I'm not gunna say it wasn't worth it cuz I had a blast and don't feel I suffered from that use.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Zombi3]
#22458824 - 10/31/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I go in spurts, at times I will trip every week (although I usually alternative between shrooms and cactus, which I have a great amount of love for both). Then I will get tired of it and stop tripping for a while and then start again.
Lately I have been enjoying other entheogens, aminita muscaria and kava. These are so underrated in our community, I find it a very sad situation.
People are so taken by the "spiritual fireworks" you get from acid and shrooms that they miss the important lessons that can be learned from the quieter, more subtle plants.
For example kava is not going to shake up your western mindset the way shrooms do. A westerner could easily drink kava and remain relatively unchanged by the experience. But I find it to be great for meditation, because it brings your mind into peace and stillness.
Now, it was Ramana Maharshi who said that peace was the only thing to be aimed at in meditation. All the spiritual fireworks and awesome visuals you get from mushrooms and acid are nice, but they aren't the goal. I feel as though there are many people in the psychedelic community today chasing wild and crazy spiritual experiences and missing the fact that that isn't the goal.
Not to downgrade mushrooms at all though, they are master healers if used correctly. But using them correctly takes a lot of skill and spiritual understanding. Kava is a much more forgiving teacher. Sorry to go off topic.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Zombi3]
#22458832 - 10/31/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: Yes and yes. I had a mad tolerance for a long time and it ruined other psychs too. After like 2 months there was barely any spiritual value to the trips, it was just getting high. I'm not gunna say it wasn't worth it cuz I had a blast and don't feel I suffered from that use.
Just curious, but do you still not feel the spiritual connection when tripping or was it a phase?
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: theshrumnub]
#22459041 - 10/31/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just a phase. It eventually came back when I mellowed out my use.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: theshrumnub]
#22459228 - 10/31/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Using Mushrooms every week will definitely ruin the spiritual part of the experience. After a while it just feels like another drug.
I've tripped maybe 150+ times on mushrooms, the bulk of which were dosed one week apart, and I barely remember most of them. The ones that I remember most are the ones that have had the biggest impact on my life. Those were the ones I took 1-6months apart.
I find it best to wait a minimum of 30 days before eating a dose. Some people say 15 days, and they are right, but for me the longer I wait the better and 30 days is where it's not too long of a wait and I can get a full experience.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Zombi3]
#22460554 - 11/01/15 05:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: Then I found steady LSD
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: ranman]
#22460610 - 11/01/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't have a personal unlimited supply...not yet at least. But, I am on mushies or some other form of psychedelic at least 2-3 times per month. It helps me keep things in perspective, lol.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: SwaggyJ]
#22460682 - 11/01/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I haven't tripped in over two months. The demands of work/school have been keeping me really busy. I feel that if I were to trip, I'd just get super anxious about all the projects I should be attending to. Not only that, but I still live with my parents, so tripping at the house is not necessarily a "fun time". They are the nagging type (as with most parents), so I definitely don't want to deal with that while high as fuck.
I'd have to wait until this semester is over, and plan out a nice nature walk at a state park. I wanna have a more spiritual experience with my next trip. I'll be dosing a dried gram of pan cyans and try to meditate throughout the come-up. It should be super exciting to say the least. And maybe I'll take a hit of dmt at the tail end of the trip.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22460749 - 11/01/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I only do it on the weekends. Work would be rough if I were tripping like on a Tues, lol.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22460808 - 11/01/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Swaggy p? Sounds off to me. I'm in the same boat as zombie. I prefer LSD. I try to trip weekly myself.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Matt87]
#22461059 - 11/01/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I always have shrooms on hand. Sadly only last tripped on shrooms in January, did some San Pedro and Changa between then and now.
Looking forward to a shroom trip in two weeks again. Been far too long! Like most here I like to be in the right headspace before flying through hyperspace.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Jeff Vader]
#22461272 - 11/01/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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For a little over a year, I was tripping on mushrooms once a week. After a while it got too much for my mind to handle though... Plus my tolerance was so high (the least of my worries). I remember when an 1/8 would send me to a whole nother dimension. I've taken a break from LSD, mushrooms, & weed altogether these past two months. I'm thinking about tripping again in the near future. I won't be doing it every week (or even every two weeks) though, that's for sure.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22461289 - 11/01/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Taking a break makes a huge difference for sure. Two months is more than long enough, although you can choose to go longer if you wish. Don't be afraid to dose big.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#22461348 - 11/01/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's sort of odd because I was tripping a lot (and smoking a lot of weed) before this hiatus but now I'm a little apprehensive about taking a large dose. There's periods where I think I'll be totally fine but then there are times when I think otherwise.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22461367 - 11/01/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Last year I used to trip at least twice a month. It's nice in the begining (awesome mood, interestedin art, life, the beauty of this world) but after a few months the magic disapears and I noticed it hurt my self confidence. You know, tripping always deconstruct the way one think, and doing this too much isn't so good for confidence, well at least in our moderne world where everyone has to fake a huge confidence level to be "successful"
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#22461389 - 11/01/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ONE OZ SLUG said: Taking a break makes a huge difference for sure. Two months is more than long enough, although you can choose to go longer if you wish. Don't be afraid to dose big.
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I'm trying to create a 2 month cycle...lsd...shrooms...cactus....ayahuasca....two weeks apart....then u only trip the same substance every 2 months! ....
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22461412 - 11/01/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: It's sort of odd because I was tripping a lot (and smoking a lot of weed) before this hiatus but now I'm a little apprehensive about taking a large dose. There's periods where I think I'll be totally fine but then there are times when I think otherwise.
...I feel this way sometimes. ..but once I drop...I always feel I could and want more!....further....
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Been several years since I've taken shrooms. Over a decade since I took more then a couple grams. May be years before I take them again, and I'll probably never take more then a couple grams again. I vastly prefer LSD. That I take a couple times a year. Could see that dropping to once per year as well. Occasional trips are far more special & worthwhile for me these days.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Dark_Star]
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22461472 - 11/01/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Been several years since I've taken shrooms. Over a decade since I took more then a couple grams. May be years before I take them again, and I'll probably never take more then a couple grams again. I vastly prefer LSD. That I take a couple times a year. Could see that dropping to once per year as well. Occasional trips are far more special & worthwhile for me these days.
....dammit darkstar!....let's do a shitload of shrooms homie.!..14 g and 400 ug?....will rock the house!....DS needs a mush drop!
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Fuck that. I wouldn't take many shrooms if you paid me to. Been to hell more than enough times as it is. No thanks.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22461506 - 11/01/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Fuck that. I wouldn't take many shrooms if you paid me to. Been to hell more than enough times as it is. No thanks.
Love u bro!.....
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I haven't been to hell yet...figure my day will come...
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22461556 - 11/01/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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This isn't meant to be condescending or anything but why do you not like mushrooms? I'm just curious.
@voodoochild, for your sake I hope you never have to experience hell on mushrooms. Without a doubt, it's the most agonizing experience I've ever been through.
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Dark_Star said: Fuck that. I wouldn't take many shrooms if you paid me to. Been to hell more than enough times as it is. No thanks.
Love u bro!.....
......I'm gonna try 7g cans next week....will let ya know...
Pan cyans? Wet or dry. 7 grams wet will have you flying high, 7 grams dry is just....
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22461567 - 11/01/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I prefer LSD too. I can make my own mush though.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22461638 - 11/01/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Fuck that. I wouldn't take many shrooms if you paid me to. Been to hell more than enough times as it is. No thanks.
Love u bro!.....
......I'm gonna try 7g cans next week....will let ya know...
Pan cyans? Wet or dry. 7 grams wet will have you flying high, 7 grams dry is just....
...dry...psil. cyans...ate 25g wet last week!.wish i woulda done 40g!..so great
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22461655 - 11/01/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: This isn't meant to be condescending or anything but why do you not like mushrooms? I'm just curious.
@voodoochild, for your sake I hope you never have to experience hell on mushrooms. Without a doubt, it's the most agonizing experience I've ever been through.
..is just a dosage thing?...I always think about it before heavy dose....believe me...I am aware of the possibility...I will go further until I hit a wall...then back off slightly...
...really interested in the 20+ g.range!...must be powerful!
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Dark_Star said: Fuck that. I wouldn't take many shrooms if you paid me to. Been to hell more than enough times as it is. No thanks.
Love u bro!.....
......I'm gonna try 7g cans next week....will let ya know...
Pan cyans? Wet or dry. 7 grams wet will have you flying high, 7 grams dry is just....
...dry...psil. cyans...ate 25g wet last week!.wish i woulda done 40g!..so great
Awesome! Never tried them before. I have a pan cyan grow in the works tho, hopefully they're as potent as everybody says they are. I still have never had strong visuals from mushrooms, and my last dose was 5.5 dry cubes
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Bigfeely123]
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I've had very few positive experiences with them. 9/10 times the experience sucks. Dark, depressing, confusing & hellish. And I don't get much out of it. It's far too confusing. Plus there's always a sense of doom to the whole thing. LSD I find to be very euphoric, spiritual, raunchy, funny, and full of crystal clarity. It's the most introspective substance I've done. No other substance has taught me as much about myself as LSD. It's like a microscope to my mind/soul, and it's fun as fuck. Super visual & overall sensory overload in the best way possible. Shrooms just don't come close.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22462327 - 11/01/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I've had very few positive experiences with them. 9/10 times the experience sucks. Dark, depressing, confusing & hellish. And I don't get much out of it. It's far too confusing. Plus there's always a sense of doom to the whole thing.
Whoaaa really?? I've heard that pans where like the best thing since sliced bread  Most people say once they try pans they never want to eat cubes again, there must be something good about them. Maybe you ate too much? The normal dose is 1 gram dry (even if from MS).
Haven't had legit LSD in like three years! It's pretty dry around where I live, most of the tabs are just RC's. Maybe I should just go to a grateful dead concert and ask around lol
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22462359 - 11/01/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not talking about pans, but shrooms in general.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22462442 - 11/01/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ahh I figured that. But I agree, LSD is much easier to handle and doesn't destroy your ego nearly as much as shrooms do. That's why I can take a fan and go out to a party and be fine and socialize, but on shrooms I'll be much more withdrawn and just be focusing on my thoughts the entire time.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22462533 - 11/01/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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There have been times in my life where I would eat mushrooms at least once a month, sometimes once a week or more.
Nowadays I don't have access to mushrooms, so it is hard for me to say how often I would eat them in my current situation.
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Dark_Star said: I've had very few positive experiences with them. 9/10 times the experience sucks. Dark, depressing, confusing & hellish. And I don't get much out of it. It's far too confusing. Plus there's always a sense of doom to the whole thing. LSD I find to be very euphoric, spiritual, raunchy, funny, and full of crystal clarity. It's the most introspective substance I've done. No other substance has taught me as much about myself as LSD. It's like a microscope to my mind/soul, and it's fun as fuck. Super visual & overall sensory overload in the best way possible. Shrooms just don't come close.
I can definitely relate to your experiences with mushrooms. I still love mushrooms, but they are a much more 'serious' tripping experience for me than LSD. Many of my experiences have been pretty dark and I start having intense existential feelings and thoughts about the insignificance of my life, etc.
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Psilosoulful said: Ahh I figured that. But I agree, LSD is much easier to handle and doesn't destroy your ego nearly as much as shrooms do. That's why I can take a fan and go out to a party and be fine and socialize, but on shrooms I'll be much more withdrawn and just be focusing on my thoughts the entire time.
IMO, the main reason LSD is so much easier to handle, is that people are taking tiny doses of LSD without realizing it. A 1/16 or 1/8 of mushrooms is going to be much more intense than 1 or 2 hits of most the acid that goes around these days. That isn't because acid isn't an equally powerful drug, that is because most the acid going around is very weak.
I do kinda know what you mean, though. Mushrooms can be really brutal. Like the Earth is trying to teach you a lesson or something. I do find acid to be more agreeable, but if you have good, strong acid, a high dose can be just as intense and ego shattering as any shroom trip.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22462673 - 11/01/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, LSD destroys the ego just as much as shrooms do. You're just not taking enough, and not realizing it because dealers overhype the dose of their shit. The process of LSD ego-destruction is more smooth for me than it is with mushrooms. Beyond that, the LSD experience is just more user-friendly for me, and I take away more from it than I do from mushrooms. So I prefer LSD.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: ranman]
#22462681 - 11/01/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I go by the seasons so 6 months on 6 months off, during the on season I dose 2-3 times a week to a total of between 40-50 times over the period.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: ranman]
#22463684 - 11/01/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ranman said: For those who have an unlimited supply thanks to hunting or cultivating mushrooms, how often do you trip? Once every week, every month, seasonally, etc.
It all depends on what I'm doing and the time of year. Sometimes not for months, sometimes 3-4 days a week for weeks on end. Winters are best for writing indoors with lots of shrooms, and summers are best for tripping outdoors in the sun, also with lots of shrooms... Sometimes weekly in long cycles. Sometimes every couple of weeks. I did quit for 10 years once, but usually when I get back to it after whatever reason for not doing them I'm all "What the hell was I thinking? This is awesome!"
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: PrimalSoup]
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ranman said: For those who have an unlimited supply thanks to hunting or cultivating mushrooms, how often do you trip? Once every week, every month, seasonally, etc.
It all depends on what I'm doing and the time of year. Sometimes not for months, sometimes 3-4 days a week for weeks on end. Winters are best for writing indoors with lots of shrooms, and summers are best for tripping outdoors in the sun, also with lots of shrooms... Sometimes weekly in long cycles. Sometimes every couple of weeks. I did quit for 10 years once, but usually when I get back to it after whatever reason for not doing them I'm all "What the hell was I thinking? This is awesome!"
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I trip once every few years now... At one point I used to trip multiple times a week.. I'm too old for that shit now
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: SnowDaze]
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I respect that... Once you get the message, hang up the phone.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: PrimalSoup]
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
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Psilosoulful said: Psychedelics offer no message?
That's right.
Not in the sense that there's some sort of information you need to receive from them. And not that there's no information to receive, either, there's plenty of it, a near infinite amount, of varying utility. But they don't exist for any human purpose, and they don't convey some sort of essential human message - they aren't some sort of messenger service just there to tell us things. So there can be no "get the message, hang up the phone" to them, just like there can be no endpoint to meditation, say - some pinnacle of "attainment" that you never have to budge from ever again. 
IME everything is flux. The universe encompasses all possibilities in its evolution - it takes all pathways on a quantum level. We in turn travel down all of these pathways simultaneously, and we only think we are experiencing a single inevitable strand. Psychedelics appear to open up these multiple realities to direct access, overriding somehow the collapse-function that we use to make "sense" out of the multiverse underlying our experiential reality.
Out of all these myriad possibilities (what some Buddhist texts refer to as the "Net of Indra") we choose, constantly, somehow, to take one path and discard the others. Psychedelics suppress this choosing and expose the infinite underneath. Every time you go back it changes. There is no "message" only the experience of the plenitude. But no wonder it burns some people out. That stuff is hard to look at - it's not even supposed to exist.
Now, granted there is a fair amount of speculation and interpretation involved in the above view. But it's something I'm working on when I have the time and shrooms, to discover exactly why it is that probability (whatever it really is) dissolves during an intense enough trip - with repeatable, measurable, results. And because it only happens with sufficient dosages to induce strong OEVs, repeated day after day, over extended periods, it requires a significant commitment of time - and shrooms - to explore properly.
But it definitely does happen, whatever it is, so it's worth investigation - I already have enough evidence of various sorts to demonstrate the reality. And if I was to have just "hung up the phone" years ago I would never have encountered this extraordinary reality. I'd just be one more person who thought there were limits to tripping. 
sorry for the OT excursion - it was a good question. Before the ninja edit.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22464722 - 11/01/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: But it's something I'm working on when I have the time and shrooms, to discover exactly why it is that probability (whatever it really is) dissolves during an intense enough trip - with repeatable, measurable, results. And because it only happens with sufficient dosages to induce strong OEVs, repeated day after day, over extended periods, it requires a significant commitment of time - and shrooms - to explore properly.
I wish I had that much time and freedom to trip consistently like that. I've never even experienced the fractal realities I know shrooms have to offer. I didn't even have strong visuals from my last 5.5 gram cube trip (damn MS never works for me).
Maybe pan cyans will fair better for me when I take 1 gram dried. I hear people stop taking cubes after having experienced pans because of the clarity of the experience (almost LSD like). I have some 2nd generation agar that I'm gonna transfer to oats soon. Shouldn't be long till I can have a full, rewarding trip!
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22464732 - 11/01/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful said: ...Once you get the message, hang up the phone...
I tend to disagree with this statement. I see it thrown around quite a bit and I forget who coined the term. But IMO, psychedelics have so much to offer. Each and every trip is different. There is so much that can be learned that you can't take it all in with one trip. I mean, shamans don't throw in the towel. They just keep going and going. I guess I just can't hang up the phone.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22464775 - 11/01/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful said: ...Once you get the message, hang up the phone...
I tend to disagree with this statement. I see it thrown around quite a bit and I forget who coined the term. But IMO, psychedelics have so much to offer. Each and every trip is different. There is so much that can be learned that you can't take it all in with one trip. I mean, shamans don't throw in the towel. They just keep going and going. I guess I just can't hang up the phone. 
I know I was just agreeing with SnowDaze when he said he no longer felt the need to trip because he was getting too old to enjoy the experience of tripping.
My guess is that the pure randomness that each trip presents gets boring over time and nothing is really "gained" from the experience. But, that is completely understandable, since natural curiosity for the exploration of the unknown tends to decrease with time, so to speak.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
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Mushrooms I do in low doses maybe once every couple months, just for fun I guess, and to revisit the "gods" of what was the single most meaningful experience of my life on an ego shattering breakthrough once, never to go back there though, at least not any time soon. Most I've ever tripped was twice in a month. Never enough for ego obliteration since I've already had that and don't really want to go back there anytime soon, I prefer mushrooms just because of the pure natural feeling of them with zero side effects. LSD lasts too long on your psyche and burns me out with unwanted side effects, jaw clenching, amped rushed energized feeling, neck and back sensations, not able to sleep, I've only done it once but would prefer to have an intense 3-4 hour experience rather than 12 with unwanted side effects
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#22465669 - 11/02/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah at this point I don't have any sort of mind blowing revelations... I agree with you totally on your statement and I have hung up the phone ha
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: PrimalSoup]
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Psilosoulful said: Psychedelics offer no message?
That's right.
Not in the sense that there's some sort of information you need to receive from them. And not that there's no information to receive, either, there's plenty of it, a near infinite amount, of varying utility. But they don't exist for any human purpose, and they don't convey some sort of essential human message - they aren't some sort of messenger service just there to tell us things. So there can be no "get the message, hang up the phone" to them, just like there can be no endpoint to meditation, say - some pinnacle of "attainment" that you never have to budge from ever again. 
IME everything is flux. The universe encompasses all possibilities in its evolution - it takes all pathways on a quantum level. We in turn travel down all of these pathways simultaneously, and we only think we are experiencing a single inevitable strand. Psychedelics appear to open up these multiple realities to direct access, overriding somehow the collapse-function that we use to make "sense" out of the multiverse underlying our experiential reality.
Out of all these myriad possibilities (what some Buddhist texts refer to as the "Net of Indra") we choose, constantly, somehow, to take one path and discard the others. Psychedelics suppress this choosing and expose the infinite underneath. Every time you go back it changes. There is no "message" only the experience of the plenitude. But no wonder it burns some people out. That stuff is hard to look at - it's not even supposed to exist.
Now, granted there is a fair amount of speculation and interpretation involved in the above view. But it's something I'm working on when I have the time and shrooms, to discover exactly why it is that probability (whatever it really is) dissolves during an intense enough trip - with repeatable, measurable, results. And because it only happens with sufficient dosages to induce strong OEVs, repeated day after day, over extended periods, it requires a significant commitment of time - and shrooms - to explore properly.
But it definitely does happen, whatever it is, so it's worth investigation - I already have enough evidence of various sorts to demonstrate the reality. And if I was to have just "hung up the phone" years ago I would never have encountered this extraordinary reality. I'd just be one more person who thought there were limits to tripping. 
sorry for the OT excursion - it was a good question. Before the ninja edit.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: SnowDaze]
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SnowDaze said: I trip once every few years now... At one point I used to trip multiple times a week.. I'm too old for that shit now
...the older I get...the better and more meaningful my trips r...
....my largest doses are my most recent...so great!
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: rolear8]
#22471265 - 11/03/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't dose more than twice a month..it's unnecessary and the magic is lost for me..
Better to wait for the perfect set/setting every time
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22471643 - 11/03/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I am cultivating I binge every chance I'm get on my days off. That's if no one bugs me and wants to do something. I'll lemon tek an eigth Friday night. If im alone Saturday I'll eat lemon tek 2 grams when I wake up, get in the bath, smoke some hash laced joints, eat some cereal. Then I'll eat them as the day goes on soaked in lemon juice unknown amounts watching documentaries or playing xbox live. take a four hour break before midnight then eat a lot like two handfulls. Sunday I'll recover with bho and beer.
Other times when im low I'll only eat them once a couple weeks with a friend hiking or something. I prefer tripping alone though. Just got growing again haven't tripped in months.cant wait to try using MAOI. Don't live in my own place now so that sucks.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Treebux]
#22474618 - 11/04/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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if it's available and I am, every 4 days
lately, once a week which is what it should be for everyone imo
80% of tolerance is gone within the first 48 hours imo, and the last 20% goes bye bye in the days and weeks after that
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: cube talk]
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Last year and the year before I had about 50-60 mushroom experiences all together, this year it's been only six or seven, I'm not sure.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Pandemoon]
#22476779 - 11/04/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess that I've been in that situation.
I used to trip acid a lot, then I switched over to mushrooms and I was sick of paying $10 a gram and started growing my own. That led me to having a basically unlimited supply. I suspected that once that happened I'd be tripping all the time, but it didn't really go that way. To be honest, when I had an unlimited supply I actually found myself tripping less often for some reason.
Last year I did go through a time period where I tripped almost every week or two, but for the most part I find psychedelics to be too exhausting to use all the time. I haven't found that the spiritual element wears off with time, but I do find that the come up is somewhat challenging.
I think that it's probably different for everyone though. I've certainly known people with unlimited supplies who hit it hard all the time.
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When I grow, I try to limit myself to twice a month max on shrooms to keep the trips positive and magical. I overdid it tripping every week end and things got a little ugly. Same with lsd, but even worse. I try to limit L trips to once a month.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22485074 - 11/06/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I've had very few positive experiences with them. 9/10 times the experience sucks. Dark, depressing, confusing & hellish. And I don't get much out of it. It's far too confusing. Plus there's always a sense of doom to the whole thing. LSD I find to be very euphoric, spiritual, raunchy, funny, and full of crystal clarity. It's the most introspective substance I've done. No other substance has taught me as much about myself as LSD. It's like a microscope to my mind/soul, and it's fun as fuck. Super visual & overall sensory overload in the best way possible. Shrooms just don't come close.

Whaaaah? I find the complete opposite. Shrooms enlightening spiritual while tabs are meaningless and just silly. Then again i doubt the tabs I've been eating are real lsd probably rc's. I ate 4 different tabs the other day and it fried my brain for 24 hours. I thought i was coming down at 9+ hours then completely worn off at +11 hours and then at 13+ hours out of no where it got stronger than it was the whole trip.
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Re: How often do you trip on shrooms? [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said: I've had very few positive experiences with them. 9/10 times the experience sucks. Dark, depressing, confusing & hellish. And I don't get much out of it. It's far too confusing. Plus there's always a sense of doom to the whole thing. LSD I find to be very euphoric, spiritual, raunchy, funny, and full of crystal clarity. It's the most introspective substance I've done. No other substance has taught me as much about myself as LSD. It's like a microscope to my mind/soul, and it's fun as fuck. Super visual & overall sensory overload in the best way possible. Shrooms just don't come close.
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