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Gr0wer
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: TrohnnyGum]
#22465582 - 11/02/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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mcchieftan, seems my math was off yea its more like 13-14% spawn.
Yes its Hydrated lime.
I just ran off the pail. PH was 10.20, i hope the start point of 12 was all that's needed to initiate the kill off. If i have contams this round i'll bump up the lime additions to hold the ph above 12. I plan to play it safe and make a hot bath batch later this week using most of my Blue Oyster spawn, still need to make market even if new projects fail. I'll also make some lime fuel pellet bags with king spawn, it seems that tek is more solid than lipa heat method.
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: Gr0wer]
#22465698 - 11/02/15 07:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to run 55 gallon pasteurization with hydrated lime in the drum. I forget how much lime I used maybe about 1/4-1/2 cup. I didn't worry about reaching a 12 ph. I had great success with the drum full of straw. It was used for oysters only. Colonization was crazy fast. And that was even not leaving it to drain overnight or anything like that.
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: TrohnnyGum]
#22466517 - 11/02/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just made up the second lime bag with two jars blue oyster. Start weight 20.6 lbs. This bag will be a pilot test for my big grow room.
Edited by Gr0wer (11/02/15 12:35 PM)
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: TrohnnyGum]
#22466535 - 11/02/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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TrohnnyGum said: I used to run 55 gallon pasteurization with hydrated lime in the drum. I forget how much lime I used maybe about 1/4-1/2 cup. I didn't worry about reaching a 12 ph. I had great success with the drum full of straw. It was used for oysters only. Colonization was crazy fast. And that was even not leaving it to drain overnight or anything like that.
How did you drain the runoff from your straw? I really don't want to ruin my grass.
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: Gr0wer]
#22467103 - 11/02/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said:
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TrohnnyGum said: I used to run 55 gallon pasteurization with hydrated lime in the drum. I forget how much lime I used maybe about 1/4-1/2 cup. I didn't worry about reaching a 12 ph. I had great success with the drum full of straw. It was used for oysters only. Colonization was crazy fast. And that was even not leaving it to drain overnight or anything like that.
How did you drain the runoff from your straw? I really don't want to ruin my grass.
lime solution is usually nearly neutral pH after 12-16 hours.
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: drake89]
#22467426 - 11/02/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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drake89 said:
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Gr0wer said:
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TrohnnyGum said: I used to run 55 gallon pasteurization with hydrated lime in the drum. I forget how much lime I used maybe about 1/4-1/2 cup. I didn't worry about reaching a 12 ph. I had great success with the drum full of straw. It was used for oysters only. Colonization was crazy fast. And that was even not leaving it to drain overnight or anything like that.
How did you drain the runoff from your straw? I really don't want to ruin my grass.
lime solution is usually nearly neutral pH after 12-16 hours.
I had a drain at the bottom of the drum. I just let it drain out onto the grass. There was never any problems with the grass. Also a higher PH in your lawn help cut down on weeds such as dandilions.
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: TrohnnyGum]
#22499944 - 11/09/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I almost thought these were a loss until yesterday. Growth is all over the bags, really light and wispy but almost 100% colonized. There are 4-5" wheat seedlings sprouting up all over the bags. I need space in my incubation pantry so they will move out a bit early to the chamber later this week.
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: Gr0wer]
#22500558 - 11/09/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: RogerSmith]
#22500868 - 11/09/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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looks good! Mine are about 2 weeks behind yours so hopefully ill see fruits end of month!
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: Gr0wer]
#22523333 - 11/14/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So an update on this one. THe large bag sprouted some green mold away from the holes so it was an internal contam. I hacked away at the spot but dont have any H202 to treat it so it keeps growing and i keep hacking. Ill get a bottle of H202 and do one last removal, if that doesnt work ill cut off the top half of the log and fruit it like that. The small log is looking good.
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: Gr0wer]
#22529606 - 11/15/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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after major surgery. Im letting this section dry out a bit to reduce contams, ill cover it back with poly and tape in a week or so.

The small one is looking good 
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: Gr0wer]
#22610577 - 12/03/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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looking good!
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: Gr0wer]
#22628208 - 12/07/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: Gr0wer]
#22628269 - 12/07/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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You said you soaked in lime for 24 hours then did 90 minute pasteurization. Isn't the point of the Lime bath to raise ph to 12 for 24 hrs to pastuerize? I also read to keep the water oxygenated by mixing or people actually do "lime showers". Btw I use about 1cup/10gal, lime to water and add if needed. There are different kinds of hydrated lime.
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: mushroomyz08]
#22628306 - 12/07/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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No heat just cold water lime. I'm using the masonry type s hydrated lime. I was comparing to hot water bath soak substrate weights since I typically do hot water bath.
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: mushroomyz08]
#22628313 - 12/07/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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My mistake I read it wrong you didn't say you soaked then boiled I noticed the comparison.
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Re: king oyster on lime pasteurized straw [Re: mushroomyz08]
#22628328 - 12/07/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm curious what result you get because I use only straw at the moment and I normally do lime baths but I only started because I couldn't fit anymore straw on my stove lol. I wonder about getting some large drums to boil straw but I feel the Lime bath is extremely easy. I will be keeping an eye on your updates!
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