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Identification help
    #22457464 - 10/31/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hi there guys, this is an awesome site, i just discovered it yesterday!!
could help me please identifying this little mushroom?



i've found a few of them in a mountain at about 3000 ft, North Italy,  and next to goat dung.
Have a good evening !!


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Re: Identification help [Re: Hermathena]
    #22457619 - 10/31/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It is a panaeolus species.


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Re: Identification help [Re: koraks]
    #22457791 - 10/31/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you so much for answering me so quickly!! I was reading some books and descriptions and it could be 'panaeolus rickenii', just the stem of those I picked seems smooth to me. My experience is very scarce anyway...


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Re: Identification help [Re: Hermathena]
    #22457827 - 10/31/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Panaeolus papilionaceus I'm guessing. Wait for Trusted ID.


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Re: Identification help [Re: theshrumnub]
    #22457857 - 10/31/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

thank you for your reply!! I'm not sure, cause cap and gills of those i picked are very dark


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Re: Identification help [Re: Hermathena]
    #22457968 - 10/31/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

panaeolus acuminatus (formerly known as rickenii I understand) is a good candidate as well.


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Re: Identification help [Re: koraks]
    #22458597 - 10/31/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

could it be active as a panaeolus rickenii? what do you think? because some articles i've read describe it active, some others (the most of them) inactive, i'm confused :confused:


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Re: Identification help [Re: Hermathena]
    #22458621 - 10/31/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

This species contains small amounts of serotonin (licit tryptamine), 5-HTP, and tryptophan. - Panaeolus rickenii wikipedia page


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Re: Identification help [Re: theshrumnub]
    #22459074 - 10/31/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

and here: http://www.ilmondodeifunghi.it/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1717:498-panaeolus-rickenii&catid=320&Itemid=51
they say it contains psilocybin and psilocin and that it's hallucinogen.
This is why I am so confused. I've also read the same thing in some other articles. The most of them just reported panaeolus rickenii as non hallucinogen. But why this discordance of opinion?


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Re: Identification help [Re: Hermathena]
    #22459085 - 10/31/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Hermathena said:
and here: http://www.ilmondodeifunghi.it/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1717:498-panaeolus-rickenii&catid=320&Itemid=51
they say it contains psilocybin and psilocin and that it's hallucinogen.
This is why I am so confused. I've also read the same thing in some other articles. The most of them just reported panaeolus rickenii as non hallucinogen. But why this discordance of opinion?




The psilocybin/psilocin content is most likely low to a point where most sources decide to not mention it, yet some might mention any psilocybin content. But I don't really know.


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Re: Identification help [Re: theshrumnub]
    #22459248 - 10/31/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It's not active, I can't explain an erroneous source


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Re: Identification help [Re: doctorghosty]
    #22463404 - 11/01/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

thanks a lot guys for your help!! so are they 'panaeolus rickenii' right? is there a chance to confuse this one for another mushroom? thanks a lot, best things


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Re: Identification help [Re: Hermathena]
    #22463503 - 11/01/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Panaeolus acuminatus is the name now


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