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Be Your Own Shaman Registered: 01/02/14 Posts: 3,249 Last seen: 1 hour, 4 minutes |
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Quote: You can get this, and so much more, from Ayahuasca/oral DMT
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Incognito hippie in disguise Registered: 09/29/12 Posts: 2,015 Loc: UK Last seen: 1 month, 6 days |
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Quote: Have you seen the video of a guy in USA getting strapped down by paramedics? Shouting to his mom "they are trying to kill me" and "poke his back with a shovel" ? I think he was on Amanitas. Not sure. I will try to find it and paste here. -------------------- Experimenting with sobriety
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funionz Registered: 07/21/15 Posts: 139 Loc: Utrecht (Netherl Last seen: 2 years, 10 months |
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Quote: I know ayahuasca and DMT can take you to an whole new ultra dimensional level, but give you energy? Are you sure about that? Ayahuasca gives you energy? Amanita made me feel like I had the power of 10 men, I was jumping so high, it was crazy, I was running inside my room, I haven't done ayahuasca yet, but from the research I made, I don't think it gives energy... I could be wrong though, I wouldn't know... And Amanita's energy does go away completely after less than 2 hours. Edited by marioeatsamanitas (11/23/15 10:21 AM)
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funionz Registered: 07/21/15 Posts: 139 Loc: Utrecht (Netherl Last seen: 2 years, 10 months |
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LoL, I don't think this guy is on Amanita Muscaria brother. I had the BEST experience ever, I can tell you, I took a dose of like 12 (more or less) grams of dried Amanita, and I can tell you, there's no way it would make a person act like that. It's too sedative, at first it makes you really sleepy, really much, you don't want to move at all and you have a headache and nausea, then after 2 hours, you suddently get an explosion of energy and the feeling of muscle power, but just that, not hallucinations whatsoever (except from the objects feeling smaller when you grab them, but this happens also because you feel stronger), then again after 2 hours you start again feeling tired and sleepy, not enough to sleep, just really relaxed, and then you also start seeing hallucinations, all kinds of hallucinations that are unexplainable really, but I will explain them to you. They aren't major hallucinations and for sure not enough to make you like that guy. It's strange to explain, but Ill try. Ill tell you what the first hallucinations you'll have looks like, but first I need to give you an example. Most times, when you close your eyes, or look inside the dark, don't you see that kinda like 'static'? Like the snowing TV static? Yeah, these millions of small things start to take some kinda wave like shape and become more visible, even with your eyes open, but not really bad and not enough to make you paranoid, same think can occur from taking a large dose of cannabis. Second hallucination, you may experience kinda like, it's hard to explain, well, in sober life when you go, for example, to lift your arm up, you just think about it and do it, your arm goes up, but when you're on Amanita, when you think about lifting your arm up, before your arm goes, you actually feel it going up, even though it doesn't move at all. And another example of this physical hallucination is, say, when you go to grab an object, before you actually grab it, you can feel your hand doing the 'grabbing move' and grabbing it, even though your hand hasn't moved at all. You have many of these, and everywhere, not just the arms. Third hallucination is a 3 second patterns CEV, it's not like other drug's patterns, these patterns are special, these patterns are formed from what you see with your open eyes, and you can see them after you close them. For example, I was looking at a hill with bushes and grass etc all in the correct shape, while I was looking at them, I closed my eyes and I could still see them with my eyes closed, but I could see their shape taking forms of diamond patterns, it was beautiful. Also when you have your eyes closed, you start seeing many kinds of different really fast and sometimes annoying CEVs, like I was seeing in one part, four arrows, each pointing at each other while forming a square shape, and they were like....compressing and going towards the middle. These can be annoying and they gave me a headache because they were a lot and they were moving fast while you're trying to focus to them. Forth hallucinations are of course the auditory hallucinations, they are not many, and they do not last a long time, but they are very very realistic, and I noticed that they are being created by your own mind and thought, and probably your fears. For example 2 days ago while I was on Amanita, I really didn't want a 'friend' of mine who is a snitch, to learn I ate amanita, I really didn't want him to learn, but while I was walking in the forest through the trees, in one part I started hearing HIS OWN VOICE from the far, calling my name like "Johnnyyyyyyy, Johnnyyyyy. I seeee youuuu" and I could hear it in a sooo realistic way, and he was saying it in a way like he had knew I ate this and he busted me, when I was hearing this I was really scared, but I wasn't paranoid or delirious, I thought to myself, "this must be a auditory hallucination, it's incredible how real it sounds", and I sat down and kept listening to the voice, thinking how incredibly real it sounds, after hearing at it for a really long time and trying to focus on it, I understood it was just the sound of the leaves of the trees from the blowing air, and it was just my mind making my consciousness to receive sound in a different way and taking it to my mind in a different form, and thus making me think I was hearing that when it was just my mind making tricks from all the other sounds, but I swear even now, it sounded 100% real and I was freaked out for a moment. The fifth hallucination are very minor hallucinations of floating little things in your peripheral vision, like bugs, when you know it's obvious they are not real, because they appear out of nowhere and disappear right about when you go to look at them. Small hallucination that last for very short time, no more than a second. I didn't mention yet, that at some points, your vision gets a bit blurry, but it's not because of your eyes, you just get kinda lost in thought, you're having like 500 thoughts a minute and it seems that everything goes in slow motion, and that's another form of hallucination, when I started playing my favorite songs, I was amazed by how slow they were going, and it didn't even seem like a hallucination, it really sounded slower, even the rave songs were super slow. And finally, the sixth hallucination, which is also the one I liked more, because I just like these things even though they scare me when I see them. These hallucinations are the, let's say, 'creatures' or 'live objects' hallucinations... I will give you one example. I was sitting down in the forest right next to a bush plant, and I wasn't even looking at it, I was just looking infront, I could see it only with my peripheral vision, and while I was looking infront (and was kinda lost in thought), suddently I see the bush from my peripheral vision, turning into a green creature-humanoid-man wearing green cloths stand up and start moving really fast. When I saw that I got really startled-scared, kinda feels like this scare that these stupid youtube videos give you where there is like a zombie popping out in the end and scaring you, if you know what I'm talking about. I saw many hallucinations like this one, like small things jumping from tree to tree, and from the far, I could see giant invisible-humanoid ghost like monsters running, and it was really incredible. When you see these OEV, you really don't expect them, that's why you get startled, but after they finish, you realize you like them. And I really do. I frikin' love this mushroom and I hope everyone would have this correct dose I had, anyways, I'm getting off topic. These are the most 'understandable' hallucinations I had, there were also some other's, but they are really hard to explain, they were like, seeing visions with another eye you have, but while having your eyes open. While having your two eyes open, suddently, from inside your mind, you can see like a three-dimensional object, but it's very weird and difficult to explain, you see it through your mind, kinda like, when you think of something and you can see the image in your head, kinda like that, but much stronger and in 3D. And most of these were deja vus, it was like, making a peek into the future, because these inner mind visions were occuring, and then after 5 seconds I was doing-seeing exactly what I saw in the vision, so it's strange to explain, and it does seem telepathetic to me and very strange. After I smoked weed, I kinda like, entered another dimension, which was like... seeing all these stuff, while don't remembering well what a human is, because you never actually understood what a human is, and who you actually are, and you start remembering all your dreams that you saw last night, or one year ago, even though you may have thought that these dreams were completely forgotten, but then you say to yourself "they were never gone, they were always in here", and anyways, it's a pretty complicated situation, kinda like getting lost in the space of your mind, but that's not considered a hallucination, since just weed by itself can do that to you in very large doses of a strong sativa.
But about the video you send me, I really don't think he was on Amanita, it doesn't do that to you, it's not enought, yet it's still not impossible. What I think this guy was on, if he was on Amanita, it was either the wrong species of Amanita, so it wasn't Muscaria, OR he took a super large dose of fresh Amanita Muscaria, which is why he was delusional. When you eat Amanita Muscaria, you need to eat it dry, so that the deliriant 'ibotenic acid' converts into muscimol, and in the end, you won't have a bad effect, kinda like this guy had... I'm also thinking this guy was on "Datura", if you know it, it's a strong deliriant, probably the strongest actually, and it doesn't take your energy away like Amanita Muscaria does, so yeah, I'm pretty sure it's datura what he's on. Also, I want to add that when you're on Amanita, you know what's happening around you and you know where you are, at least in the dose I did. It's when you combine the Cannabis, that you start getting in space and disoriented, but Amanita alone, trust me, you can control yourself if you want, it will be just hard to talk or find answers to questions because your mind is running really fast and you may get lost in your thought. It's been two days since I ate the Amanita, and I can feel it in my body, I feel relaxed and calm, it's great.
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funionz Registered: 07/21/15 Posts: 139 Loc: Utrecht (Netherl Last seen: 2 years, 10 months |
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My conclusion is that Amanita isn't really that powerful to cause you these kinds of hallucinations. I'm sure, if he's on mushrooms, he's on psilocybin or a really high dose of fresh Amanita. If you see in one part (even if the video is bad quality), you can see his eyes are dilated. Dried Amanita doesn't cause the eyes to dilate because Muscimol doesn't act completely as a poison to your body, but fresh Amanita does, because it has 10 times more ibotenic acid, and that acts as a deadly poison and causes you stomach cramps, which make the pupils dilate. And psilocybin causes the pupils to dilate by releasing dopamine in the brain, so he's either on a lot of fresh Amanita or a really bad trip of a large dose of psilocybin shrooms. Even though I still believe he's on datura, and that's why he's acting like a zombie and having such a bad trip about death, and both Datura and Toè (brugsmansia tea) dilate pupils by making stomach cramps. So trust me, he's not on dried Amanita, don't be scared of it, and use it correctly and be patience, let it dry, just put it in the oven for 3 hours if you don't have any patience... I'm telling you, if it's Amanita Muscaria and it's well dried, it's completely safe until at least 20 grams, from my research.
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Shaman Registered: 10/17/15 Posts: 188 Last seen: 6 years, 6 months |
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iv eaten 18 gs of them before you most definitely can have hallucinations from flys no doubt in my mind I spent 2 hours trying to poor a glass of water for my self it took for ever and I fibaly got it poored and put the jug in the fridge and came backvto a dry glass dry countertops no water at all I gave up and reiterated to my room and watched robot chicken with much confusionlol
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Be Your Own Shaman Registered: 01/02/14 Posts: 3,249 Last seen: 1 hour, 4 minutes |
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Quote: Oh yes, oral DMT definitely gives you energy, just don't use too much Rue or Caapi, or use Moclobemide instead. But you just gotta make it through the come up and listen to stimulating music during the come up, at least that's what i do. A friend of mine also gets awesome energy as well, though he doesn't listen to any music really, he just gets pumped up. It's also more noticeable with Mimosa than it is with Acacia, but Acacia is good too, just more relaxing (though i've still felt pumped up and energetic on Acacia before, but it happens more with Mimosa). Heck one night at like 1am, the Mimosa energy hit me and i had to run a few laps around my back yard because i just had so much energy lol. And it feels like natural young energy, not a speedy kind of energy. --------------------
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funionz Registered: 07/21/15 Posts: 139 Loc: Utrecht (Netherl Last seen: 2 years, 10 months |
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Quote: You're saying that in a way like I said that you don't, but I said you do have, did you read my whole reply where I explain all the hallucinations it gives? I just said they're just not powerful enough to make you like the guy in the video, did you actually watch the video? This guy is 100% mentally gone on full delirium... Amanita doesn't do that, you should know that. And I know exactly what you mean by pooring a glass of water feels like forever... Do you know how much time it took me to clean my vaporizer after use and put it back to it's box? I was actually looking at the time, and it only took 20 minutes, but it felt like more than 2 hours man, and while I'm doing it and it feels so hard to do it, I also made some mistakes and forgot some parts outside of the box and I have to reopen it and put it back and then close it again, bro, that was like extreme exercise, I was about to sweat, seriously, felt soooo long xD Edited by marioeatsamanitas (11/23/15 02:34 PM)
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funionz Registered: 07/21/15 Posts: 139 Loc: Utrecht (Netherl Last seen: 2 years, 10 months |
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Quote: Didn't know that... The more information you know the better ![]() Thanks
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Shaman Registered: 10/17/15 Posts: 188 Last seen: 6 years, 6 months |
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My phone would not load it didn't mean that in any bad way . And I do agree that if you took a amount to equal anything close to that you would ruin your liver in the process. This part is not directed at anyone just an opinion of mine but I feel like a lot of people count these mushrooms out and talk down on them and say they are not worth your time . Yess acid and syplociben mushrooms are probably better recreational drugs not to mention a lot of others but the fact remain in my mind that these are some serious mushrooms with serious effects with a completely different chemical to expand your mind with rant over lol
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funionz Registered: 07/21/15 Posts: 139 Loc: Utrecht (Netherl Last seen: 2 years, 10 months |
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I know you didn't mean it in a bad way man, don't worry, lol. And you're right, these mushrooms were not recreational... They are like a wise life teacher, not fun. I like it, and I do appreciate it more. And it's also beautiful and popular
![]() Probably the most famous mushroom in existance
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Incognito hippie in disguise Registered: 09/29/12 Posts: 2,015 Loc: UK Last seen: 1 month, 6 days |
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Quote: I want to read your trip report but it is a complete wall of text. Can you edit it into paragraphs? 1min job, saves others going blind from reading it
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funionz Registered: 07/21/15 Posts: 139 Loc: Utrecht (Netherl Last seen: 2 years, 10 months |
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You're right, if they're tripping while trying to read it, it may look like forever to them, so it may ruin their trip. So ill do it. Here:
-I don't think this guy is on Amanita Muscaria brother. I had the BEST experience ever, I can tell you, I took a dose of like 12 (more or less) grams of dried Amanita, and I can tell you, there's no way it would make a person act like that. It's too sedative, at first it makes you really sleepy, really much, you don't want to move at all and you have a headache and nausea, then after 2 hours, you suddently get an explosion of energy and the feeling of muscle power, but just that, not hallucinations whatsoever (except from the objects feeling smaller when you grab them, but this happens also because you feel stronger), then again after 2 hours you start again feeling tired and sleepy, not enough to sleep, just really relaxed, and then you also start seeing hallucinations, all kinds of hallucinations that are unexplainable really, but I will explain them to you. -They aren't major hallucinations and for sure not enough to make you like that guy. It's strange to explain, but Ill try. Ill tell you what the first hallucinations you'll have looks like, but first I need to give you an example. Most times, when you close your eyes, or look inside the dark, don't you see that kinda like 'static'? Like the snowing TV static? Yeah, these millions of small things start to take some kinda wave like shape and become more visible, even with your eyes open, but not really bad and not enough to make you paranoid, same think can occur from taking a large dose of cannabis. -Second hallucination, you may experience kinda like, it's hard to explain, well, in sober life when you go, for example, to lift your arm up, you just think about it and do it, your arm goes up, but when you're on Amanita, when you think about lifting your arm up, before your arm goes, you actually feel it going up, even though it doesn't move at all. And another example of this physical hallucination is, say, when you go to grab an object, before you actually grab it, you can feel your hand doing the 'grabbing move' and grabbing it, even though your hand hasn't moved at all. You have many of these, and everywhere, not just the arms. -Third hallucination is a 3 second patterns CEV, it's not like other drug's patterns, these patterns are special, these patterns are formed from what you see with your open eyes, and you can see them after you close them. For example, I was looking at a hill with bushes and grass etc all in the correct shape, while I was looking at them, I closed my eyes and I could still see them with my eyes closed, but I could see their shape taking forms of diamond patterns, it was beautiful. Also when you have your eyes closed, you start seeing many kinds of different really fast and sometimes annoying CEVs, like I was seeing in one part, four arrows, each pointing at each other while forming a square shape, and they were like....compressing and going towards the middle. These can be annoying and they gave me a headache because they were a lot and they were moving fast while you're trying to focus to them. -Forth hallucinations are of course the auditory hallucinations, they are not many, and they do not last a long time, but they are very very realistic, and I noticed that they are being created by your own mind and thought, and probably your fears. For example 2 days ago while I was on Amanita, I really didn't want a 'friend' of mine who is a snitch, to learn I ate amanita, I really didn't want him to learn, but while I was walking in the forest through the trees, in one part I started hearing HIS OWN VOICE from the far, calling my name like "Johnnyyyyyyy, Johnnyyyyy. I seeee youuuu" and I could hear it in a sooo realistic way, and he was saying it in a way like he had knew I ate this and he busted me, when I was hearing this I was really scared, but I wasn't paranoid or delirious, I thought to myself, "this must be a auditory hallucination, it's incredible how real it sounds", and I sat down and kept listening to the voice, thinking how incredibly real it sounds, after hearing at it for a really long time and trying to focus on it, I understood it was just the sound of the leaves of the trees from the blowing air, and it was just my mind making my consciousness to receive sound in a different way and taking it to my mind in a different form, and thus making me think I was hearing that when it was just my mind making tricks from all the other sounds, but I swear even now, it sounded 100% real and I was freaked out for a moment. -The fifth hallucination are very minor hallucinations of floating little things in your peripheral vision, like bugs, when you know it's obvious they are not real, because they appear out of nowhere and disappear right about when you go to look at them. Small hallucination that last for very short time, no more than a second. I didn't mention yet, that at some points, your vision gets a bit blurry, but it's not because of your eyes, you just get kinda lost in thought, you're having like 500 thoughts a minute and it seems that everything goes in slow motion, and that's another form of hallucination, when I started playing my favorite songs, I was amazed by how slow they were going, and it didn't even seem like a hallucination, it really sounded slower, even the rave songs were super slow. -And finally, the sixth hallucination, which is also the one I liked more, because I just like these things even though they scare me when I see them. These hallucinations are the, let's say, 'creatures' or 'live objects' hallucinations... I will give you one example. I was sitting down in the forest right next to a bush plant, and I wasn't even looking at it, I was just looking infront, I could see it only with my peripheral vision, and while I was looking infront (and was kinda lost in thought), suddently I see the bush from my peripheral vision, turning into a green creature-humanoid-man wearing green cloths stand up and start moving really fast. When I saw that I got really startled-scared, kinda feels like this scare that these stupid youtube videos give you where there is like a zombie popping out in the end and scaring you, if you know what I'm talking about. I saw many hallucinations like this one, like small things jumping from tree to tree, and from the far, I could see giant invisible-humanoid ghost like monsters running, and it was really incredible. When you see these OEV, you really don't expect them, that's why you get startled, but after they finish, you realize you like them. And I really do. I frikin' love this mushroom and I hope everyone would have this correct dose I had, anyways, I'm getting off topic. -These are the most 'understandable' hallucinations I had, there were also some other's, but they are really hard to explain, they were like, seeing visions with another eye you have, but while having your actual eyes open. While having your two eyes open, suddently, from inside your mind, you can see like a three-dimensional object, but it's very weird and difficult to explain, you see it through your mind, kinda like, when you think of something and you can see the image in your head, kinda like that, but much stronger and in 3D. And most of these were deja vus, it was like, making a peek into the future, because these inner mind visions were occuring, and then after 5 seconds I was doing-seeing exactly what I saw in the vision, so it's strange to explain, and it does seem telepathetic to me and very strange. -After I smoked weed, I kinda like, entered another dimension, which was like... seeing all these stuff, while don't remembering well what a human is, because you never actually understood what a human is, and who you actually are, and you start remembering all your dreams that you saw last night, or one year ago, even though you may have thought that these dreams were completely forgotten, but then you say to yourself "they were never gone, they were always in here", and anyways, it's a pretty complicated situation, kinda like getting lost in the space of your mind, but that's not considered a hallucination, since just weed by itself can do that to you in very large doses of a strong sativa. But about the video you send me, I really don't think he was on Amanita, it doesn't do that to you, it's not enought, yet it's still not impossible. What I think this guy was on, if he was on Amanita, it was either the wrong species of Amanita, so it wasn't Muscaria, OR he took a super large dose of fresh Amanita Muscaria, which is why he was delusional. When you eat Amanita Muscaria, you need to eat it dry, so that the deliriant 'ibotenic acid' converts into muscimol, and in the end, you won't have a bad effect, kinda like this guy had... I'm also thinking this guy was on "Datura", if you know it, it's a strong deliriant, probably the strongest actually, and it doesn't take your energy away like Amanita Muscaria does, so yeah, I'm pretty sure it's datura what he's on. Also, I want to add that when you're on Amanita, you know what's happening around you and you know where you are, at least in the dose I did. It's when you combine the Cannabis, that you start getting in space and disoriented, but Amanita alone, trust me, you can control yourself if you want, it will be just hard to talk or find answers to questions because your mind is running really fast and you may get lost in your thought. It's been two days (now four) since I ate the Amanita, and I can feel it in my body, I feel relaxed and calm, it's great. Hope this helps
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Incognito hippie in disguise Registered: 09/29/12 Posts: 2,015 Loc: UK Last seen: 1 month, 6 days |
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At some point in this video it was mentioned that he admitted eating some mushrooms he found in the backyard.
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Cheatin bastered Registered: 09/07/15 Posts: 729 Loc: Bigfoot Territor Last seen: 6 years, 7 months |
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funionz Registered: 07/21/15 Posts: 139 Loc: Utrecht (Netherl Last seen: 2 years, 10 months |
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They look great man, you should dry them very well and let the trimmed pieces inside the hot water for about 25 minutes. But don't expect drinking will be easy, it tasted really really bad, it took me more than 30 minutes to drink it. You will also probably get a lot of nausea which will last for exactly 2 hours. It may seem at the moment that vomiting would be the best feeling you could have, but trust me, after you vomit, you will regret it. So hold it and be ready for the best experience which will start after 3+ hours after drinking and will be changing effect. Do 12-14 grams, no more and no less, in my opinion, it's the best dose, because I've heared some people had really bad experiences with larger doses and it feels like you have fever or something, so this amount is perfect. It's also nice if you smoke some ganja after, it puts you in another dimension
![]() Hope I hear back from you, would like to hear your experience.
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funionz Registered: 07/21/15 Posts: 139 Loc: Utrecht (Netherl Last seen: 2 years, 10 months |
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Quote: That means it could be anything. It could actually be 'Amanita Regalis', and he confused it to be just an old Muscaria.
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