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Leatus



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Thanks everyone! the end of a very bad trip. *update* discovered the cause.
#22456047 - 10/30/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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*Original Post* ive vommited countless times since i ingested 5g i wasnt prepared for in any way . will the fact ive emptied my stomach cut the duration of this trip? i already feel much better but im fighting going back into that terrible place i was in . ? do i just need to keep riding this out?
this was my 2nd trip and i was very dumb about it and now ive paid the price .
*Update* Last night i decided to trip again for the first time since this post. I decided to do a decent dose of 2g's dried. I took the dose and i felt decent untill a ton of nausea and anxiety hit me about 40 minutes in . It was feeling to be a repeat of the last trip so i tried to relax and took some anxiety meds. The nausea only got worse untill the point i knew i had to make myself sick again before the trip and the nausea got any worse. I had terrible stomach pain but i forced myself to sleep with some sleep medication. * I was not having a bad trip due to the small dose and remaining tolerance *thank god*
All day it didn't make sense to me why this happened again . I was pretty discouraged until i read into the cause of nausea on mushrooms . I wasn't aware that mushrooms were completely undigestable . I have been cutting the mushrooms into chunks just small enough to swallow when i took then . So i imagine me swallowing those huge undigestable chunks without a doubt had to be the cause of the excruciating nausea and stomach pain?
I've eaten smaller fresh mushrooms with zero nausea . Next time I will try tea for sure! What does Shroomery think? has my noob form of ingestion been the cause of my last two bad experiences ?
Edited by Leatus (11/06/15 02:28 PM)
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Leatus]
#22456062 - 10/30/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're going to have to ride it out unless you have some benzos on hand. But, it will be okay. Mushrooms are one of the safest drugs you can take. You have nothing to worry about. Try to lay down and listen to music, or throw a movie on. If you are restless go for a walk. this will pass soon. Just tell yourself it will be over in a few hours.
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Leatus



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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22456080 - 10/30/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah it appears the cold i have is something much worse and it decided to wait untill i took 5g of mushrooms to hit me full scale . kinda a combo breaker
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Leatus]
#22456086 - 10/30/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Been crawling this forum for years on and off. Finally created an account, to give a hand. I appreciate the motivation.
To start, yes that was dumb. Very very. Eat something bland. Light buttered toast, anything you can stomach. If/when you can. The nausea will wear off. It will just take time. Honestly, No idea about the effects after puking, iron stomach here. But lay back out on some good music and try to find your bliss. PM me if you need support in this. I know it can be rough.
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Leatus]
#22456088 - 10/30/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So sorry to hear that. When did you take them?
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Leatus



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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22456093 - 10/30/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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about 10:40pm on a full stomach (thank god)
but ive emptied my stomach no doubt since then
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4HO-DMT


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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Leatus]
#22456098 - 10/30/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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What time is it now? (I don't know your time zone)
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Leatus



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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22456102 - 10/30/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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its 1:28am now so its been a good while
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4HO-DMT


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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Leatus]
#22456115 - 10/30/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You'll be gradually coming down from here on out. It will get easier and easier. Do you have any benzos or alcohol (if you drink)? They can ease the trip up a bit. If you like to smoke weed, it might help, but can be unpredictable. For me, weed is relaxing. But, for some, it makes them freak out.
Edited by 4HO-DMT (10/30/15 11:39 PM)
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Leatus



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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22456128 - 10/30/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont have anything other than more mushrooms haha . i think the shit storm has passed now and ill be able to go into more detail tomorrow when im sober . i will explain but while im still intoxicated even trying to think about what i was thinking earlier makes me feel sick
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Leatus]
#22456148 - 10/30/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good luck my friend. Enjoy the rest if you can.
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22456384 - 10/31/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You make it out alright then?
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: theshrumnub]
#22456398 - 10/31/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you doin ok man? Hopefully you are getting some good rest
Next time remember to have some Xanax on hand Incase something like this happens...
I'd always have them around if I was doin heroic doses like you
But hey, you made it! The bad trip is all in the past and you came out the winner.. Pat yourself on the back man... You are a champ
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: SnowDaze]
#22456650 - 10/31/15 07:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hope you will ingest the experience to keep the best out of it don't let this "bad trip" scare you for the future, I'm sure you learned a lot
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Leatus



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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22456910 - 10/31/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks for everything man! i managed to get to sleep around 3am . I believe my tripping rendered me to not able comprehend how i was just getting really really sick . I had a terrible diet that day and a ton of ick from the end of this cold . Mushrooms dont sound completely repulsive to me now like i was worried they would. im just going to have to start back with small doses and better preparation in the next few weeks . thanks again for the help!
but what i also learned ! My golden teachers are WAY more potent than i thought they would be!
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Leatus]
#22456943 - 10/31/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: theshrumnub]
#22457122 - 10/31/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah after you puke it does shorten the trip drastically, unless it's been like 4 hours and then you puke, in which case the last 2 hours or so are still gonna be strong. Taking a large dose and getting sick and far too high as a new shroomer is very common and a lesson we all seem to learn the hard way. I ate over 7 grams on my 3rd or 4th trip and got so out of my mind and body high I couldn't move for hours etc. It is good you had this powerful trip as now you know what is too much and that even in the case of taking far too much and getting way to high you can still manage it well, or relatively well. Staying at 3 grams or under should be much more controllable and easy for you to enjoy. 2.8 isn't a bad dose to trip on if you aren't looking for a heavy experience. Anyways glad you struggled through the bad trip and welcome to the club, we've all been there and done that
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Leatus



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Im glad it didn't ruin them for me ! it was definitely a learning experience I wont forget anytime soon though.
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Leatus]
#22459454 - 10/31/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Glad you are feelin better man, and glad it didn't scare you off... Way to be a trooper
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Leatus]
#22460524 - 11/01/15 04:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Leatus said: I dont have anything other than more mushrooms haha .
LOL hahahaha. Good one! rating for ya
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: SnowDaze]
#22461079 - 11/01/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I cant blame the mushrooms for my own poor decision making skills!
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psilocybinjunkie said: Yeah after you puke it does shorten the trip drastically, unless it's been like 4 hours and then you puke, in which case the last 2 hours or so are still gonna be strong. Taking a large dose and getting sick and far too high as a new shroomer is very common and a lesson we all seem to learn the hard way. I ate over 7 grams on my 3rd or 4th trip and got so out of my mind and body high I couldn't move for hours etc. It is good you had this powerful trip as now you know what is too much and that even in the case of taking far too much and getting way to high you can still manage it well, or relatively well. Staying at 3 grams or under should be much more controllable and easy for you to enjoy. 2.8 isn't a bad dose to trip on if you aren't looking for a heavy experience. Anyways glad you struggled through the bad trip and welcome to the club, we've all been there and done that 
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Leatus]
#22468741 - 11/02/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Next time you have a bad trip, drink as much water as you can, until your stomach is completely full. I don't understand exactly the science behind it, but whenever I'm having a bad trip and I do it I come down almost immediately. It probably decreases the psilocybin concentration in the blood plasma i'm not sure.
Edited by Aureus (11/02/15 09:42 PM)
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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Aureus]
#22468917 - 11/02/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Drinking enough water is essential for the human body to function, but drinking too much can be just as dangerous as drinking too little.
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Leatus



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Re: HELP. in the end of a very bad trip . [Re: Groo]
#22486416 - 11/06/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think i have a idea on the cause of this experience! i've updated the original post!
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Re: Thanks everyone! the end of a very bad trip. *update* discovered the cause. [Re: Leatus]
#22487345 - 11/06/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Leatus said: I wasn't aware that mushrooms were completely undigestable . I have been cutting the mushrooms into chunks just small enough to swallow when i took then . So i imagine me swallowing those huge undigestable chunks without a doubt had to be the cause of the excruciating nausea and stomach pain?
I've eaten smaller fresh mushrooms with zero nausea . Next time I will try tea for sure! What does Shroomery think? has my noob form of ingestion been the cause of my last two bad experiences ?
That's quite possibly the source of your stomach discomfort, especially if you were swallowing them in big chunks instead of chewing them up (and lol, I've never heard of anyone doing that with mushrooms, why didn't you just chew them up?)
With that said...I really do think that a lot of the people out there that experience nausea (not all, but a good portion of people, especially those new to mushrooms/psychedelics) do so from anxiety or jitters that lay beneath the surface, or a psycho-somatic like effect...and not from having some bits of mushrooms in their stomach. Your mention of anxiety, so much so you had to take some meds, makes me think that might be the source of your nausea...or at least it's likely having an influence on the nausea and stomach discomfort you experience.
Lots of people do claim to avoid the nausea by making a tea though, so it's worth a shot.
For the past 8 years or so I've ate my mushrooms straight up, chewed up and washed down with water on a mostly empty stomach...and never had nausea. Recently starting taking them via tea though, because of the rapid onset and ease of re-dosing .
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Re: Thanks everyone! the end of a very bad trip. *update* discovered the cause. [Re: openmind]
#22487746 - 11/06/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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These days they often make me nauseous but they never used to. Now I make tea, or more often I just take 4 aco dmt instead.
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Re: Thanks everyone! the end of a very bad trip. *update* discovered the cause. [Re: openmind]
#22488525 - 11/06/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It was just my fist method of taking them when i ate a bunch of small GT fruits and it worked very well so i never strayed . i am excited to make tea it sounds very promising! I just need a good trip again so i can get out of this funk with mushrooms .
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