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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22454609 - 10/30/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You can't even figure out matter,
don't even start with time.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: WScott]
    #22454626 - 10/30/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: koods]
    #22454636 - 10/30/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

How can something not be moving?


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: WScott]
    #22454792 - 10/30/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Relativity


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: makaveli8x8] * 2
    #22454826 - 10/30/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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makaveli8x8 said:
henceforth you are basically playing semantics




I'm needling you on a technicality.  What you should take from this is that scientific theorems, principles and theories are subtle and complicated.  Believers will take a complicated idea with subtleties, like conservation of mass or thermodynamics, they will bastardize the pop-version of it and then use that in an attempt to refute a similarly bastardized principle that conflicts with their world view.  In the end all they have done is make shit up that doesn't make sense, point out that it doesn't make sense and then declare their precious self-serving worldview vindicated.  All the while they do this while using technology and medicine that was engineered under the very principles they deny.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: DieCommie]
    #22454841 - 10/30/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

We need more politicians with science backgrounds.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: Capers]
    #22454890 - 10/30/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Paul Braun, MD:

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“God’s word is true. I’ve come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. It’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who are taught that from understanding that they need a savior. There’s a lot of scientific data that I found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth. I believe that the Earth is about 9,000 years old. I believe that it was created in six days as we know them. That’s what the Bible says. And what I’ve come to learn is that it’s the manufacturer’s handbook, is what I call it. It teaches us how to run our lives individually. How to run our families, how to run our churches. But it teaches us how to run all our public policy and everything in society. And that’s the reason, as your congressman, I hold the Holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I’ll continue to do that.”




This guy is a fucking doctor?


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22455088 - 10/30/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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incorrect, matter is a form of mass.  henceforth you are basically playing semantics and failed ontop of picking such a mundane point to argue on the broad topic presented.





Matter is not a "form of mass" (which is meaningless), mass is a property of matter. You cannot accuse someone of playing semantics when you are the one redefining words.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: Void_Hawk]
    #22455240 - 10/30/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Be careful with macklemore8, if you lean to hard he will blow up your ratings calling you a rapist.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: endogenous]
    #22455377 - 10/30/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Who do we have to head the "Faith Investigations and Oversight Committee."  Oh, there is none...  Oppression by the faithful is pervasive.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: koods]
    #22455526 - 10/30/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Republicans are not serious people





are democrats serious people?





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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22455544 - 10/30/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

oh look...videos.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22456397 - 10/31/15 02:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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well im not really sure how someone's religion is important.  Until science can explain how there is basically an infinite amount of matter in the universe and it keeps getting created along with the space to hold it and where it all came from then anyones guess is good enough



Do you believe that atoms exist? Do you believe that pure (normal) water is H2O? Do you believe that carbon usually has 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons?

(edit: just realized that "normal" carbon is 666. But the carbon used for carbon dating is 686)

Do you believe in DNA?

Do you disbelieve in "carbon dating"?


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: DieCommie]
    #22456421 - 10/31/15 03:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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they say matter can't be created nor destroyed




Who says that?  That is not a principle or theorem of science...  You are betraying your ignorance.

Scientific theories make accurate predictions.  Far more accurate than "anyone's best guess".  The computer you are on now is a result of scientific theory.  Your best guess could never make a computer.



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There is a scientific law called the Law of Conservation of Mass, discovered by Antoine Lavoisier in 1785. In its most compact form, it states:

matter is neither created nor destroyed.

In 1842, Julius Robert Mayer discovered the Law of Conservation of Energy. In its most compact form, it it now called the First Law of Thermodynamics:

energy is neither created nor destroyed.

In 1907 (I think), Albert Einstein announced his discovery of the equation E = mc2 and, as a consequence, the two laws above were merged into the Law of Conservation of Mass-Energy:

the total amount of mass and energy in the universe is constant.

Generally, textbooks would add, as I am doing, that mass and energy can interconvert.

An interesting historical footnote: during the radioactive decay called beta decay, tremendous amounts of energy were being produced. This was expected, but what was not was that the energy amounts released varied widely for the exact same decay process. The amounts should always have been the same. This was very puzzling to the early researchers and I believe it was Niels Bohr who proposed that the Law of Conservation of Energy was being violated. Of course, this turned out to not be the case.

The correct answer was a new particle called the "neutrino," proposed about 1930 by Wolfgang Pauli. The neutrino was finally detected in 1952 (I think) and the discoverers were able to inform Pauli, then near death due to cancer. By the way, the neutrino is a very, very important particle in modern science. You may wish to research how neutrinos were useful in learning about Supernova 1987A.

The Law of Conservation of Mass is still a useful idea in chemistry. This is because the energy changes in a chemical reaction are so tiny that they did not affect any measurements. 100 kJ is a typical value for the energy involved in a chemical reaction and it is only about 10¯9 gram. Only recently has such a small amount been able to be accurately measured. The mass loss or gain due to energy loss or gain in a chemical reaction may someday be something that is routinely measured. http://www.chemteam.info/Thermochem/Law-Cons-Mass-Energy.html





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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: endogenous] * 3
    #22456451 - 10/31/15 03:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I can't say if this is a big deal, after all, the US elected a man president who believes the Universe Revolves around himself.  Twice.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: endogenous] * 1
    #22456456 - 10/31/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

God created the heavens and the Earth. Today is much like the days of Noah in which people mock God. But God will not be mocked. His judgment is rightious and shall overtake the wicked like a sword to the naked heart of the sinner.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22456468 - 10/31/15 04:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Finally a voice of reason is chosen. This gives us all hope, America has turned the corner into the age of rational thinking. For we are made in God's image, not from some goddamned monkey. If we evolved from monkeys, then why would they still be around:facepalm:


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: billy jowl]
    #22456767 - 10/31/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

We didn't evolve FROM monkeys. We share a common ancestor WITH monkeys. You obviously don't evolution, bro.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: FrozenHappiness] * 1
    #22456802 - 10/31/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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We didn't evolve FROM monkeys. We share a common ancestor WITH monkeys. You obviously don't evolution, bro.





The faithful deniers are so predictable.  I described this tactic just a few posts up...
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Believers will take a complicated idea with subtleties ... they will bastardize the pop-version of it and then use that in an attempt to refute a similarly bastardized principle that conflicts with their world view.  In the end all they have done is make shit up that doesn't make sense, point out that it doesn't make sense and then declare their precious self-serving worldview vindicated.




Claims evolution means monkeys turned into man, sees monkeys still around - egotistically declares that we are made in the likeness of a god.


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Re: Head of House "Science" Committee Appointed Evolution Denier to Head Science Investigations [Re: koods]
    #22456806 - 10/31/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
Republicans are not serious people




neither are their voters. or at least ones who vote for people like paul broun.


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