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Shroomopotamus
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: MoxyOx] 2
#22454666 - 10/30/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomopotamus don't strive for enlightenment, enlightenment strives for Shroomopotamus.
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    This is a trap! A trap! You are all busted! Busted! You fools!
If a time comes where I fail to appear I've been abducted and I will miss you all Please smile and pet puppies as often as possible Be happy Be nice (<3);}
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Seriously_trippin
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Things like doing yoga,meditation or psychedelics might lead to epiphanies but imo that's not enlightenment. Living life and studying life constantly is the only way to get more enlightened. Keeping an open mind,going through relationships,learning and mostly life experience. Happiness and sadness .I don't think there is some unattainable enlightenment I'm missing. I think part of enlightenment is knowing that you can always know more be more mentally mature. Most people who claim they're enlightened I think they are inherently not.
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Moonshoe
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I feel like I have to believe that its possible to attain some kind of transcendent state and actually transcend the sufferings of life. I choose to believe this and act as though it is true.
I want to be sitting in lotus position as an 80 year old man in deep Samahdi doing yoga at sunrise, astral traveling and having lucid dreams every night, chanting mantas and hiking in the forest.
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Moonshoe]
#22456474 - 10/31/15 04:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess this is where faith comes in.. if the possibility of a highly enlightened state is doubted, ignored, or overlooked, where will we find the serious discipline and drive to advance to to great lengths in our practice? Faith and vision... to envision some highly conscious state achieved through years of serious practice and dedication to the discpline, while having faith in its possible.existence, in.whatever form it might take when our mental cloud settles and we.can see with a clarity that is probably so profound and unlike anything we can imagine, that changes the way we dream, how conscious we dream, how long we stay concious in dreams (and non dreams)...
The ancient taoist(?) cave dwellers were said to live and meditate in darkness for years and at some point experienced a merging with cosmic consciousness . Upon their return to the village/people, they would be seen as the one with a higher/clearer vision. Theres a forum called taobums (sp?) and they get deep into this stuff. But yea.. Enlightenment gets pretty out there id guess /stoned rant
Edited by Hobozen (10/31/15 04:14 AM)
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Lucis
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#22456669 - 10/31/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to care about such things when I was in my mid 20's, but after I got clean I just stopped caring about that and accepted my life for being the little black rain cloud that it is, which I made this way due to my poor choices.
Just remember one thing, if you think you're enlightened, you're not.
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Lucis] 1
#22456707 - 10/31/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't believe in enlightment The concept of it is also depressing. It is elitist, and implies there is a peak. In my universe, there are no peaks, no ultimate mountain. The idea of an ultimate mountain is uninspiring and lame to me. Maybe true enlightment is there is none. The only fitting description for enlightment is that it is a paradox. For when you become enlightened, it means you have never been father away from it.
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Tripsurfer
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Apollyphelion]
#22456821 - 10/31/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Once peaking on mushrooms I experienced what I think to be a great awakening. Bright light and a very clear understanding of the need to let go of the self but also the knowledge that I was unable to do so at the time. It was awe-inspiring and beautiful and I cried tears of joy after.
My daily meditations are more of a struggle against myself. Usually when I am just about fed up with it, some sort of breakthrough occurs and I am motivated to continue. I have also become hooked on the relaxation it brings me
-------------------- Ach en wee ben ik de klos, met mijn boog schoot ik een albatros... A philosopher is a person who knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.

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Davesnothere
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#22456896 - 10/31/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well Im aboard for some enlightened spirituality.... I dont know if I strive for it, but I do use it as way to be a better person every day and be more at peace with my surroundings. The Chinese kids story "journey to the west" portrays it well, You don't let your mind ape run free at every earthly desire. You act from knowledge and reason and commpassion for the world. You act as a part of nature not aloof as most seem too.
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Edited by Davesnothere (10/31/15 09:04 AM)
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MrBlueYoMind
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Davesnothere]
#22457348 - 10/31/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
nice1returns said: You can see the path but until you walk the path you will never be as enlightened as me
-------------------- Confucius say: He who sticks drugs in butthole has head up ass. EVOLUTION REQUIRES REPRODUCTION
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Moonshoe
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#22457442 - 10/31/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It has been shown that meditation has profound physical effects on the body and actually physically alters the structure of the brain . So you really can transform yourself and your consciousness through lifelong spiritual discipline. Also meditators can learn many incredible physiological feats (check out Wim Hof) and has lead to really profound wisdom (read the Dhammapadha it's really incredible ) and yoga has such profound euphoric Relaxation and wellbeing from it, I can really see the long term effects of this lifestyle Profoundly transforming people on many levels and it Seems like the most beneficial lifestyle to me.
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MrBlueYoMind
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Moonshoe]
#22458161 - 10/31/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are Buddhists attached to the concept of enlightenment?
My understanding (which is probably incorrect so feel free to correct me) of Buddhism and enlightenment is that once one achieves enlightenment, they no longer exist in the physical realm of life-death suffering (they escape Samsara).
If this is true, then how does one know this to be true? Once one is enlightened they aren't here to tell anyone about it. If the path to enlightenment is to free oneself from all desires and attachments, by telling the path to someone else then one would have to desire for another to know, thus "losing" the enlightenment/not being truly enlightened. If a being gained some sort of power to where they could travel back and forth they would still have to desire for others to join the path, creating a contradiction in the path.
Maybe I just misunderstand...
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#22458254 - 10/31/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're overthinking it
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invitro

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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#22464384 - 11/01/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlightenment to me is like a creme brulee, I don't know what exactly it is but it sounds good and I want it.
Edited by invitro (11/01/15 09:17 PM)
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highvibes
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: invitro]
#22464396 - 11/01/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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pass some of that enlightenment over this way breh! And a beer while you're at it.
-------------------- I only did ketamine once. I thought you were supposed to do as much as you do cocaine. I didn't move for 3 hours and it sucked. Fuck ketamine.
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Seriously_trippin
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Moonshoe]
#22464757 - 11/01/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Moonshoe said: It has been shown that meditation has profound physical effects on the body and actually physically alters the structure of the brain . So you really can transform yourself and your consciousness through lifelong spiritual discipline. Also meditators can learn many incredible physiological feats (check out Wim Hof) and has lead to really profound wisdom (read the Dhammapadha it's really incredible ) and yoga has such profound euphoric Relaxation and wellbeing from it, I can really see the long term effects of this lifestyle Profoundly transforming people on many levels and it Seems like the most beneficial lifestyle to me.
I don't doubt nor dis that but I think there is always room for more "enlightening". I subscribe to faith giving people more well-being,calmness and many more positive change in life. However enlightenment is a strong word, I think tesla was a genius or hawking but even people like that I don't think can be truly enlightenment. For me that's the same thing as all knowing or omnipotent.
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Oggy]
#22464945 - 11/01/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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No. That's a paradox. It cannot be sought.
It just is.
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Near Dylan
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Angel_Above]
#22464960 - 11/01/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Angel_Above said: No. That's a paradox. It cannot be sought.
It just is.
sounds hetty +weeds +dah dang bing
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22465001 - 11/01/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: If by enlightenment you mean thinking for yourself, then yes.
enlightenment means 'follow what the other pseudo religious non thinking hippies are doing'
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highvibes
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22465022 - 11/02/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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enlightenment is found in the bottom of a meth pipe. filled with dmt
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Re: Are you striving for enlightenment? [Re: MrBlueYoMind] 1
#22465042 - 11/02/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MrBlueYoMind said: Are Buddhists attached to the concept of enlightenment?
they may talk about it but it means dick because it's simply talk
Tibetan buddhist monks demand to be treated like gods, you do not feed the poor or starving before making sure the monks are fed, they accumulate wealth and whether it continues today or noot doesnt negate that until at least the last 50 years they would abduct children to work as slaves in the monasteries
in Thailand every male is ordained as a buddhist monk, most opt not to remain as a monk but they still follow the traditions which also include ensuring that the monks are well cared for, these monks are untouchables and it is actually a crime to touch them, arrest them or anything else
in sri lanka and myanmar the buddhist monks are waging a war against the muslims, not some peaceful protest sort of war, they've started attacking the muslims in a show of force with swords, guns and any other weapon, they incorporate child soldiers that have been dragged into all of it. it's the same in most places
there is no enlightenment, just pretentious jackasses that think they're better than everyone else and decide to tell everyone about it constantly
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