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OfflineSleepyE
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: SleepyE]
    #22463357 - 11/01/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

mushrooms ego death feels like the whole planet came to life and swallowed you whole, and youre with mother nature as some massively complex mash of patterned beauty from hyperspace with semi and sometimes full out of body experiences, but you still feel "attached" to this planet, but DMT completely removes that attachment from anything familiar, both visually and emotionally.

its like the ego death on mushrooms but zero visual attachment to this reality which makes it far more intimidating and scary.


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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Aureus]
    #22464240 - 11/01/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Aureus said:
Have you ever heard about ego death on shrooms? It's definetly possible to breakthrough on shrooms. When you take a dose high enough, there's no difference of what you see with your eyes open or closed and you're literally transported to another dimension. The difference is that it won't last just a couple of minutes like with smoked DMT, it will last for hours and the chances of having a bad trip is higher.




You are urged to try DMT for yourself... don't just read. Experience.  Then you compare again... imo, comparing without first experiencing is pretty dumb. DMT breakthrough is incomparable.

:getstoned:


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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: pablokabute]
    #22464667 - 11/01/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Each drug has its psychedelic dimension, I'm not saying they are comparable, i'm just saying shrooms can be as intense as DMT. If you don't agree, you probably have never had a true powerful shamanic experience with hallucinogenic mushrooms.


http://www.trufflemagic.com/blog/experiment-simple-psilocybin-psilocin-extraction/

30 mg of psilocybin crystals smoked with a vaporizer

"It came on about 1 minute 30 seconds into the induction. The initial rush was more profound than vaporized DMT experiences but not as intense as 5meodmt vaporized. The visual aspect was that of DMT and maybe even a bit more, hard to say, there was much going on.
Auditory and physical symptoms persisted throughout the 20 minute peaking experience. The come down was much like the downside of oral administration or fungi. After effects persisted for about 30 – 40 minutes after peak."



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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Aureus]
    #22464695 - 11/01/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Says the guy who has never done dmt.  :goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #22464749 - 11/01/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

interesting, never heard of anyone vaping psilocybin, fuck i had freebase 4-aco-dmt i probably could have tried that, dammit.


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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Aureus] * 1
    #22465396 - 11/02/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Whenever I try just eating the shrooms, i can get the most intense body high, but never visuals. Is it just with me?




I'd tend to say this is normally down to dose / potency, although it does seem (just from reading posts on here) that some people experience less visuals than others, even if the dose would normally be sufficient for most people to get good visuals.

Also, are you talking about CEV or OEV or both?

I wouldn't really call an "intense body high" with no visuals a trip, to be honest, it would make me want to increase the dose.

I think you can have some idea whether lack of visuals is down to dosage just by the intensity of your general thought patterns - I find that strong visuals require a fairly strong trip which involves a lot of non-visual mindfuck. If you are getting heavily mindfucked without any visuals then that would be unusual, if you are getting no mindfuck and no visuals you probably need a higher dose.

If you get good visuals and a good trip from the same dose on lemon tek but not without it....then I guess you stick with lemon tek!


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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Aureus]
    #22466546 - 11/02/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Aureus said:
Each drug has its psychedelic dimension, I'm not saying they are comparable, i'm just saying shrooms can be as intense as DMT. If you don't agree, you probably have never had a true powerful shamanic experience with hallucinogenic mushrooms.


http://www.trufflemagic.com/blog/experiment-simple-psilocybin-psilocin-extraction/

30 mg of psilocybin crystals smoked with a vaporizer

"It came on about 1 minute 30 seconds into the induction. The initial rush was more profound than vaporized DMT experiences but not as intense as 5meodmt vaporized. The visual aspect was that of DMT and maybe even a bit more, hard to say, there was much going on.
Auditory and physical symptoms persisted throughout the 20 minute peaking experience. The come down was much like the downside of oral administration or fungi. After effects persisted for about 30 – 40 minutes after peak."






Nice way to edit your post when you didn't like my response.


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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #22469255 - 11/03/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Lesson #1 don't look for visuals and you won't be diasappointed if they never appear, maybe listen instead of looking and really see :mushroom2: what they have to offer


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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #22469908 - 11/03/15 07:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Lesson #1 don't look for visuals and you won't be diasappointed if they never appear, maybe listen instead of looking and really see :mushroom2: what they have to offer





That's precisely it.


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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Aureus]
    #22472408 - 11/03/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Whenever I try just eating the shrooms, i can get the most intense body high, but never visuals. Is it just with me?




I'm the same way. I'm curious to try mushrooms now that I'm off synthetic cannabinoids for awhile. I either have to lemon tek or mix with cactus.

Do some research on using syrian rue as a MAOI to intensify the effects of mushies. It's like how mimosa hostilis is made into ayuhuasca. You can get Syrian rue at idian grocery stores apperntly. I haven't tried but from the experiences I've read it makes mushrooms like 3 times as intense.


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