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Aureus
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I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking
#22450703 - 10/29/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whenever I try just eating the shrooms, i can get the most intense body high, but never visuals. Is it just with me?
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Psilosopherr
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Aureus]
#22450710 - 10/29/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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very interesting. may have to try that
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pablokabute
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22450728 - 10/29/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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How many gs do you do most of the time?
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22450745 - 10/29/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You are not alone, same thing happens with me. Last trip, I took around 5.5 dried grams, and ended up with an intense body high, looping thoughts, some auditory hallucinations, and very minimal distortions in vision. Disappointing to say the least.
That is why I'm done growing cubes for a while, MS just never works out in my favor. And I haven't gotten around to cloning the right fruits yet. Maybe I'll try APE or PE and go from there.
But once my pan cyan grow is done, I'll be trying out the infamous 1 gram dry dose. I hear you are almost guaranteed a full-blown psychedelic experience.
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Aureus
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: pablokabute]
#22450750 - 10/29/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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2 grams
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Aureus
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22450758 - 10/29/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful said: You are not alone, same thing happens with me. Last trip, I took around 5.5 dried grams, and ended up with an intense body high, looping thoughts, some auditory hallucinations, and very minimal distortions in vision. Disappointing to say the least.
That is why I'm done growing cubes for a while, MS just never works out in my favor. And I haven't gotten around to cloning the right fruits yet. Maybe I'll try APE or PE and go from there.
But once my pan cyan grow is done, I'll be trying out the infamous 1 gram dry dose. I hear you are almost guaranteed a full-blown psychedelic experience. 
Just try lemon tek and you won't be disappointed with the visuals. Just don't lemon tek more than 2 grams, after 2 grams it's just too intense and not fun.
Edited by Aureus (10/29/15 07:49 PM)
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Leviticus969



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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Aureus]
#22450776 - 10/29/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lemon tek doesn't do anything... If the genetics of the mushroom is bad then nothing in the world other than a placebo effect can make it better.
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Aureus
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Leviticus969]
#22450832 - 10/29/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you call hologram open eye visuals and my computer screen warping placebo... so be it. The fact is I can never have any visuals when I dont lemon tek, no matter how much I take.
Edited by Aureus (10/29/15 08:03 PM)
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TheHulk69
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Leviticus969]
#22450863 - 10/29/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Meh, IMO there's limitless variables when it comes to ingesting these things, psilocyin content is a big factor don't get me wrong but I think set and setting play an equal if not greater role. Your head space, last time you ate, what you ate, what time, etc all factor into the "trip".
I would hesitate to say that lemon tek does nothing, the acidity converts psilocyin into psilocybin, essentially skipping one step for our bodies to metabolize. The result is the same potency squeeze into a smaller time frame giving the impression of tripping much harder. But ya I see what ur saying.
Also aren't pan cyans similar, if not less potent compared to cubensis? I may be wrong but I think the pans aren't anything special, the psilocybe cyanescens on the other hand :p
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Leviticus969



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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: TheHulk69]
#22450908 - 10/29/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would think that cyans and other variety of shrooms are similar to cubes in the fact that they all have the chance of being extremely potent to extremely not.
@Aureus - you know you have extremely potent shrooms with good genetics when your closed eye visuals last the whole 2-4 hour trip. Open eye visuals are more common and is not a good way to gauge whether or not your batch is good.
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Leviticus969] 1
#22450928 - 10/29/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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grind an oz or 2 into powder (then dose as normal), you'll have better consistency, continuity and evens out the ms genetic lottery.
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Edited by Coraltrout (10/29/15 08:16 PM)
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Leviticus969



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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Coraltrout]
#22450958 - 10/29/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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A common myth, I'm afraid
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Psilosopherr
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Coraltrout]
#22450972 - 10/29/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I remember a TC or two saying they wouldn't even eat cubes anymore after trying pan cyans.
apparently psilocybin is not psilocybin.
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22451011 - 10/29/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You guys need to chew them longer. I have the same problem though I'm on 4 grams and honestly the visuals are minimal but good god everything else is awesome. I think if you chew them more you get more of the I'm sorry I can't spell right now. I'll post back in a bit. Like tomorrow I'm still tripping sorry.
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Aureus]
#22451067 - 10/29/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Aureus said: Whenever I try just eating the shrooms, i can get the most intense body high, but never visuals. Is it just with me?
i have the same problem, i cant get high on mushrooms unless i grind into powder and drink in orange juice, i need the psilocybin to hit at once otherwise i wont trip
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Leviticus969



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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Dr.LSD]
#22451068 - 10/29/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Leviticus969



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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Leviticus969]
#22451076 - 10/29/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The problem is genetics of the shrooms. It's garbage. Has nothing to do with you or how you eat it.
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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Leviticus969]
#22451272 - 10/29/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lemon tek is more than just placebo There's chemistry going on that makes the trip more intense but shorter.
Also, pan cyans are markedly more potent than cubes and quite consistent in potency, even with MS. Many reports on here confirm this and there is also a Dutch publication that shows quantitatively that pan cyans are more potent than cubes:

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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: Leviticus969]
#22451317 - 10/29/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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6Silent9Knight6 said: The problem is genetics of the shrooms. It's garbage. Has nothing to do with you or how you eat it. 
How do you know it has nothing to do with their personal body chemistry? If you really think that everyone reacts to drugs the same way, you're misguided. Even if two people eat the same dose from the same batch of mushrooms, they will still perceive things differently due to their state of mind and their personal brain chemistry.
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Leviticus969



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Re: I can't have any visuals without lemon tekking [Re: LSDaytripper]
#22451692 - 10/29/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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For the most part I believe we're all built the same biologically. As in we take a certain medicine to heal a certain condition, eat to satisfy hunger or to gain a certain benefit from that certain food. And yeah I do realize some ppl can eat fish and some can't but I think for the most part, if someone takes a more potently good batch of shrooms then they'll all experience the same things, if not close.
So that's the biological side of it. The other side would be the environmental factors and how that affects certain people. But i'm not going to get into all that.
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