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Re: a "real man" [Re: Hobozen]
    #22460891 - 11/01/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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blankk said:
Or a way of describing one's ideal partner.  What would our ideal partner be other
than real?  Not fake...  What's real to one is fake to another..
Would that make this whole thing, ultimately unreal?
Except for Scarlett Johansson, she's obectively real :yesnod:



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Re: a "real man" [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22460960 - 11/01/15 08:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I mean LOLed, but yeah, from personal experience, its a sexual thing.
Ive banged girls that  had boyfriends / husbands who would always moan something a long the lines of "this is a real man", etc
but barely have heard it from girls that were single.

Its always the chicks that are extremely dissatisfied that bring that phrase to the table..

So if you start hearing your woman start bringing up "real men",  figure out what you need to do to satisfy her or she will be fucking the first dude that makes a move.
Your probably already fucked if she brings up  "real man" around other males in your presence..its basically a signal that her current man isnt "real" and is giving confidence to whoever wants to step up to the plate to do so.


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Re: a "real man" [Re: hTx]
    #22460965 - 11/01/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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hTx said:
I mean LOLed, but yeah, from personal experience, its a sexual thing.
Ive banged girls that  had boyfriends / husbands who would always moan something a long the lines of "this is a real man", etc
but barely have heard it from girls that were single.

Its always the chicks that are extremely dissatisfied that bring that phrase to the table..

So if you start hearing your woman start bringing up "real men",  figure out what you need to do to satisfy her or she will be fucking the first dude that makes a move.
Your probably already fucked if she brings up  "real man" around other males in your presence..its basically a signal that her current man isnt "real" and is giving confidence to whoever wants to step up to the plate to do so.



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Re: a "real man" [Re: hTx]
    #22460990 - 11/01/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So if you start hearing your woman start bringing up "real men",  figure out what you need to do to satisfy her or she will be fucking the first dude that makes a move.
Your probably already fucked if she brings up  "real man" around other males in your presence..its basically a signal that her current man isnt "real" and is giving confidence to whoever wants to step up to the plate to do so.




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Re: a "real man" [Re: Hobozen]
    #22461052 - 11/01/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Pachoo I appreciate your participation and hope it continues in the sub forum.


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Re: a "real man" [Re: pachoo]
    #22461177 - 11/01/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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*poke poke* Seems like real men in here to me.

I honestly lurk in this part of the boards the most, but feel really self conscious about posting here as a woman. Mainly because there aren't really other females who post here on the subjects. And also because I find that I have very conflicting thoughts on the subjects here than the majority. It'd probably make me melt because it would become too much. Haha

I honestly couldn't even define what a 'real man' is. But for me, it's more of how I feel around one. I think it's mainly seeing them self-assured in their life and going about everyday. It's this protective and manly feeling that a woman/man feels safe with them. Almost heroic in a way. I honestly think that most men are already like this... you can definitely see it when a man has something to live for, even if for morals or love... I think it's mainly an acquired quality and not really subjective to being born with it. Whatever. I think when people talk about it now... it's just.. a manly stereotype of physicality mixed with the 'good man' qualities that you all have talked about. When women talk about the 'real men', it's just that... a good guy and then we joke and faun over their manly physicalities. There's also the whole cultural differences of what a 'real man' would be to each sexes in different cultures. Material wealth, confidence, alpha status, work habits, passionate, althetic, morally sound.... all of these are different to the definition, if there is one, depending on where you are. I also see it as somehow... being a man versus being a boy. I guess when you're no longer a boy, or naive or fragile like one, then you're a real man. ?? 

Of course, these are still tangible for women as well. You are a real women, when you are no longer a girl.

I think you guys are thinking way too hard about this. Now I'm thinking way too hard about this. haha

I'm going to end it like this... being a real man is gaining the experience of manhood. Being a real woman is gaining the experience of womanhood. Acquiring the confidence of the life you choose to live, sexually/mentally experiencing to know your own body and trust others with your love, learning to be protective and vulnerable when need be. And being happy in your life by being true to yourself. You don't need a fancy job or fancy materialistic things... you don't even need anyone by your side. You can already have had the experiences you wished to live, and you can already be confident that if you haven't you may get them in the future. Perhaps it's hard to state someone really is a real person after all until they are near the end of their life or gone and you can state it during reminiscing. Or maybe it's when you see that glimmer of them during a point in their life where they take charge and are sure and welcoming to the experience.

Does that make sense? Am I backwards yet?




pachoo -- thank you for the insight!  :smile:  I think your post addressed the ambiguities of this better than most of the others I've seen in this thread.  Your input is most welcome.


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Re: a "real man" [Re: hTx]
    #22461183 - 11/01/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I find the term "real man" slightly ridiculous, im pretty sure it came about from women who werent satisfied sexually with whatever man they had married, and came up with the "real man" fantasy..leading them to cheat with whoever could "out-man" their man.

Much of being a "real man", to a woman, is being able to fuck her, good.

Much of being a "real man", to guys, is a bit of the above coupled with handling your business and not being a pussy.




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Re: a "real man" [Re: Hobozen]
    #22461599 - 11/01/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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pachoo said:
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Please point out one beautiful woman who has a man that walks like a wounded gazelle and is afraid of everything. Why would they want that




I actually know of a handful of beautiful women who have stayed with male partners who were alot more timid. I've talked about this with one of them, who wouldn't be offended, just to know if I guessed right. She told me it's bc she has a really assertive personality and didn't want an abrasive male equal to her. She wanted someone who gushed and loved her and admired her. Just like how she admires her significant other for his sensitivity and caring ways. Also we talked about how some women have more sensitive males as partners bc they could be overly motherly in their personalities. So they wanted to take care of the man... with most everything.

We're you thinking about powerful beautiful women for your comment? Bc I don't think equal attractiveness is usually worldwide when finding a partner. I mean... it's about love right? Haha




Pachoo! I've heard women say they like shy guys because it makes them
feel more secure and comfortable etc.  This was on a womans
forum (I'm trying to learn their secrets).  The hearts of people
come in many different flavors, hell, I even heard of a hotty
who had a Mr. Burns fetish.  Having the belief that beautiful
women only want a guy with specific qualities is self-defeating.
And that goes with women too.




It's not self defeating.. all women get wet for a strong, confident man. They may not act on it, they may want a nice boy to comfort their insecurity and crazy brain, but their biology will always get wet from real men. You hear this stories of two pussies getting married all the time and the wife becomes a ghost and needs a little life put back into her into form of a low wage workers fat ready to go cock, instead of her pussy husbands limp dick


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Re: a "real man" [Re: eehoo]
    #22461664 - 11/01/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: a "real man" [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #22461759 - 11/01/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Haha you guys are being silly. When we talk about 'real men' in female conversations we all just want the man that we love to be that man. And most of the time they already are. Most of the time tho it's just joking. Because on some level that kind of man doesn't really look like Superman, ya know. It's fabricated advertisement of ideals and what sells. I don't really care about what females/males who cheat think. I'm talking about women already in relationships. I think the whole 'real man' thing is a facade that stereotypes men into a category of being objective to women's sexuality. Most of the Malboro-type real men are just advertisements. They are for cigarettes or to look cool. I think women just want a man who is willing to be passionate towards them. Women need to feel wanted in my opinion. I've seen it in women who cheat, who are in a stable relationship, and who are single. When we see a man who takes care of business and loves his woman and family and is probably athletically strong and morally heroic, we faun over them. But it's a package. It's not just that we want a good screwing. (I wish too more females would join in this conversation haha, because I'm not a spokesperson for the whole female public. Just my own experiences and conversations with other females on the subject)

I think it's an emotional thing. We have to be SHOWN you love us. That you'll take care of us. That you admire us like we would you. Men are verbal. Women are emotional. It's not that men don't love their women, it's just that I think we have to be shown and reminded how much you do love us. Do you understand? I know it's alot and needy, but that's what I've worked out in my own brain. Most of the time I have no idea how my woman brain works. Too much emotion... And I'm a very emotional woman at that. But I'm also objective and logical and most of the time I reflect and try to understand what I want really.

Also, I don't like alpha guys. They kind of bug the shit out of me. I like sweet and nerdy and shy guys. I just want to ravage them.

:bashful:

Anywho, it's hard to generalize something like this when individualistic wants are also in play. Everyone goes for different things. Real men is subjective to the person who addresses it.


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Re: a "real man" [Re: hTx]
    #22461864 - 11/01/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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hTx said:
I mean LOLed, but yeah, from personal experience, its a sexual thing.
Ive banged girls that  had boyfriends / husbands who would always moan something a long the lines of "this is a real man", etc
but barely have heard it from girls that were single.







I actually a le question about this statement if you don't mind me asking?

What were these women to you after you bedded them? Were you like... "Man, that's a REAL woman right there." Or were they just a good lay, boring lay... anything lay. Did anything specifically stand out to you about their personality or physicality or their sexual abilities?

I've just always wondered about when women who state they want a real man... if they're even ... worth it to deserve one? Theoretically, of course. Without knowing their background and just their actions.

I don't know... Alot of people have wants and fantasies and ideals without looking at themselves.


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Re: a "real man" [Re: eehoo]
    #22462002 - 11/01/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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eehoo said:
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blankk said:
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pachoo said:
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eehoo said:
Please point out one beautiful woman who has a man that walks like a wounded gazelle and is afraid of everything. Why would they want that




I actually know of a handful of beautiful women who have stayed with male partners who were alot more timid. I've talked about this with one of them, who wouldn't be offended, just to know if I guessed right. She told me it's bc she has a really assertive personality and didn't want an abrasive male equal to her. She wanted someone who gushed and loved her and admired her. Just like how she admires her significant other for his sensitivity and caring ways. Also we talked about how some women have more sensitive males as partners bc they could be overly motherly in their personalities. So they wanted to take care of the man... with most everything.

We're you thinking about powerful beautiful women for your comment? Bc I don't think equal attractiveness is usually worldwide when finding a partner. I mean... it's about love right? Haha




Pachoo! I've heard women say they like shy guys because it makes them
feel more secure and comfortable etc.  This was on a womans
forum (I'm trying to learn their secrets).  The hearts of people
come in many different flavors, hell, I even heard of a hotty
who had a Mr. Burns fetish.  Having the belief that beautiful
women only want a guy with specific qualities is self-defeating.
And that goes with women too.




It's not self defeating.. all women get wet for a strong, confident man. They may not act on it, they may want a nice boy to comfort their insecurity and crazy brain, but their biology will always get wet from real men. You hear this stories of two pussies getting married all the time and the wife becomes a ghost and needs a little life put back into her into form of a low wage workers fat ready to go cock, instead of her pussy husbands limp dick




Shy guys can be strong and confident in bed.  Just because you're shy and lacking in confidence on the outside, doesn't mean you can't turn into a beast at night.  Some of these beefcakes who have all the confidence in the world are boring in bed.  Lots of stories about that out there. Good sex isn't just about big manly cocks and hard pounding sex.  There are many Japanese women who are highly sensual, and many of them like thin, feminine guys.  Check out some Japanese porn if you don't believe me.  Actually I quickly looked and found this  perfect example of what I'm talking about.  They love it because of the intense exchange of sexual energy, which sends waves of orgasmic energy throughout the body.  Whatever gets that stuff pumping. 

Then there's tantric sex... I'm sure a (real lol) women would prefer a shy tantric expert over a strong, confident beefcake who feels like a dead ice statue in bed.  Why?  Much more orgasmic.  Then we could get deeper into sexual kung fu, learning how to have long, shared full body orgasms where the two bodies feel as one unified ball of orgasmic energy.  Beefcakes got nothing on those guys.


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Re: a "real man" [Re: pachoo]
    #22462025 - 11/01/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Haha you guys are being silly. When we talk about 'real men' in female conversations we all just want the man that we love to be that man. And most of the time they already are. Most of the time tho it's just joking. Because on some level that kind of man doesn't really look like Superman, ya know. It's fabricated advertisement of ideals and what sells. I don't really care about what females/males who cheat think. I'm talking about women already in relationships. I think the whole 'real man' thing is a facade that stereotypes men into a category of being objective to women's sexuality. Most of the Malboro-type real men are just advertisements. They are for cigarettes or to look cool. I think women just want a man who is willing to be passionate towards them. Women need to feel wanted in my opinion. I've seen it in women who cheat, who are in a stable relationship, and who are single. When we see a man who takes care of business and loves his woman and family and is probably athletically strong and morally heroic, we faun over them. But it's a package. It's not just that we want a good screwing. (I wish too more females would join in this conversation haha, because I'm not a spokesperson for the whole female public. Just my own experiences and conversations with other females on the subject)

I think it's an emotional thing. We have to be SHOWN you love us. That you'll take care of us. That you admire us like we would you. Men are verbal. Women are emotional. It's not that men don't love their women, it's just that I think we have to be shown and reminded how much you do love us. Do you understand? I know it's alot and needy, but that's what I've worked out in my own brain. Most of the time I have no idea how my woman brain works. Too much emotion... And I'm a very emotional woman at that. But I'm also objective and logical and most of the time I reflect and try to understand what I want really.

Also, I don't like alpha guys. They kind of bug the shit out of me. I like sweet and nerdy and shy guys. I just want to ravage them.

:bashful:

Anywho, it's hard to generalize something like this when individualistic wants are also in play. Everyone goes for different things. Real men is subjective to the person who addresses it.




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Re: a "real man" [Re: pachoo]
    #22462134 - 11/01/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I mean, different experiences with different women, however I suppose there's a few recurring themes..they were all quite attractive (shallow, I know, but that was the only reason I would make a move is if they were fine), their significant others weren't doing it for them (had one girl tell me her dude couldnt get it up the last few times they tried to get intimate), the sex is usually pretty hardcore...not much love, a lott of lust..raunchy even.

afterwards I just think "that was a good lay, but would never seriously date or pursue affair/homewreck" although I do keep them around as friends and would continue to have random hook-ups at times.

The one exception, is the girl I'm with now whom I sort of stole from some asshole...we've been faithful to each other for nearly two years.


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Re: a "real man" [Re: Hobozen]
    #22462163 - 11/01/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Why do women go for so many different things in dudes? for guys its pretty objective what is most desirable in women, i just find it funny women cant agree on objectivity,

Like what type of girl goes for the shy nerdy type, and what type of girl goes for the muscle meathead? Are there typical personalities they have that differ between them influencing why they have different desires in men?


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Re: a "real man" [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #22462272 - 11/01/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Why do women go for so many different things in dudes? for guys its pretty objective what is most desirable in women, i just find it funny women cant agree on objectivity,




maybe it's not so objective for men, at least men who have grown up and passed the college phase of banging whoever and however many women they can.  when a man matures emotionally and psychologically, ... well, if he matures, i'm sure his taste in women becomes more defined.  also, a mature man will want to seek out someone they can relate to very well on an emotional, psychological and sexual level.  All of those combined make for strong intimate bonding and good sex.  If it's just physical you're after, the sex is going to be more one dimensional in a way. 

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Like what type of girl goes for the shy nerdy type, and what type of girl goes for the muscle meathead?




tough question.. maybe pachoo could help us with that one...


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Re: a "real man" [Re: Hobozen]
    #22462302 - 11/01/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think women are like a status thing for a lot of men though, the more attractive the more people almost congratulate you for being with them. The objective for men obviously is the taylor swift type body/face id say


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Re: a "real man" [Re: Hobozen]
    #22462318 - 11/01/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Like what type of girl goes for the shy nerdy type, and what type of girl goes for the muscle meathead?




tough question.. maybe pachoo could help us with that one...




Haha I dunno. :shrug:

Different 'variety' of people go for opposite personalities, same personalities, balanced personalities... Immature genders tend to look at partners of their personal ideals or physicality preferences. Some grow out of it, some don't. I think in the end, most people are looking for partners who pull their mental/heart/loin strings at the same time.

I'm unhelpful. :sad:

But I really wanted to joke saying smart girls go for the shy nerdy guys. Heehee


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Re: a "real man" [Re: SleepyE]
    #22462325 - 11/01/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Oh yea, forgot all about society statuses for partners


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Re: a "real man" [Re: pachoo]
    #22462335 - 11/01/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Haha you guys are being silly. When we talk about 'real men' in female conversations we all just want the man that we love to be that man. And most of the time they already are. Most of the time tho it's just joking. Because on some level that kind of man doesn't really look like Superman, ya know. It's fabricated advertisement of ideals and what sells. I don't really care about what females/males who cheat think. I'm talking about women already in relationships. I think the whole 'real man' thing is a facade that stereotypes men into a category of being objective to women's sexuality. Most of the Malboro-type real men are just advertisements. They are for cigarettes or to look cool. I think women just want a man who is willing to be passionate towards them. Women need to feel wanted in my opinion. I've seen it in women who cheat, who are in a stable relationship, and who are single. When we see a man who takes care of business and loves his woman and family and is probably athletically strong and morally heroic, we faun over them. But it's a package. It's not just that we want a good screwing. (I wish too more females would join in this conversation haha, because I'm not a spokesperson for the whole female public. Just my own experiences and conversations with other females on the subject)

I think it's an emotional thing. We have to be SHOWN you love us. That you'll take care of us. That you admire us like we would you. Men are verbal. Women are emotional. It's not that men don't love their women, it's just that I think we have to be shown and reminded how much you do love us. Do you understand? I know it's alot and needy, but that's what I've worked out in my own brain. Most of the time I have no idea how my woman brain works. Too much emotion... And I'm a very emotional woman at that. But I'm also objective and logical and most of the time I reflect and try to understand what I want really.

Also, I don't like alpha guys. They kind of bug the shit out of me. I like sweet and nerdy and shy guys. I just want to ravage them.

:bashful:

Anywho, it's hard to generalize something like this when individualistic wants are also in play. Everyone goes for different things. Real men is subjective to the person who addresses it.




No offense but you're a woman on an Internet forum. You have to be fat and unattractive to show up in places like these, so in all honesty your view on how men win over women is completely irrelevant as you are not a beautiful woman. If you were one, you would have so much attention you would having to be blocking it out. Modern world there is a man around every corner to pamper you , unless you are repulsive


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