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Re: a "real man" [Re: Hobozen]
#22450742 - 10/29/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I learned all my best dance moves from that vid.
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DieCommie

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DividedQuantum said: Perhaps we ought to do away with this "real man" bullshit. It seems to me that real men are really scared little boys. I think most women would agree. Do you believe in the notion of a "real man"? If so, why? And if not, why not? Is it just macho bluster, or is there substance to it?
I agree, the notion of a "real man" is usually disgusting, aggressive, machismo bullshit.
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A real man eschews divisiveness.
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Re: a "real man" [Re: DisoRDeR]
#22451225 - 10/29/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I eschew cashews and I eschew 'em up real good!
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ew girl, eww
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Surreal man pens manifesto
While achene mangoes walnuts!
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eehoo
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Re: a "real man" [Re: DisoRDeR]
#22451723 - 10/29/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Real man needs to continue. I love how no matter how hard society tries to turn everyone in to robots, we still remain animals. I like primitive things
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Re: a "real man" [Re: eehoo]
#22451801 - 10/29/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i like your style
cavemen 4 lyfe
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eehoo
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Re: a "real man" [Re: Hobozen]
#22452286 - 10/30/15 05:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would much rather live the life of a cave man than a modern human in America
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I think the concept of a "real man" that is in operation in society today is flawed. It morphs to fit the desires and aspirations of each individual. There are no qualities, admirable or not, that strictly define what it means to be a "real man".
That said, there definitely are differences between the masculine and feminine aspects of being. This manifests in psychological gender and in physical sex, and both males and females can be masculine and/or feminine. I'd say that the "ideal man" is a more realistic concept, as that is based in psychological and physical principles --the ultimate embodiment of both masculine gender and physical masculine form. I can't say what those qualities are though.
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Re: a "real man" [Re: Devizome]
#22452830 - 10/30/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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DividedQuantum said: Perhaps we ought to do away with this "real man" bullshit. It seems to me that real men are really scared little boys. I think most women would agree. Do you believe in the notion of a "real man"? If so, why? And if not, why not? Is it just macho bluster, or is there substance to it?
I think everybody's definition is going to vary to a heavy extent. I personally don't buy into the whole alpha male aspect of it. I see a real man as somebody that is stand up when they need to be, don't steal from their friends and don't go around punking on people they call friends.
In abbreviated terms, just a stand-up motherfucker.
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Re: a "real man" [Re: lowbrow]
#22455104 - 10/30/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: I see a real man as somebody that is stand up when they need to be, don't steal from their friends and don't go around punking on people they call friends.
What does that have to do with having a penis though? Women should be that way too... Doesn't being a real man mean you do things that women can't or shouldn't do? Otherwise, its just called being a decent person.
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DieCommie said: What does that have to do with having a penis though? Women should be that way too...
I agree, its a double-standard.
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DieCommie said: Otherwise, its just called being a decent person.
I prefer the phrases 'stand-up' or 'got heart', but otherwise, I agree.
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Re: a "real man" [Re: lowbrow]
#22455242 - 10/30/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What about this,
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Doesn't being a real man mean you do things that women can't or shouldn't do?
Do you deny that is what people generally mean when they say "real man"?
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laughingdog
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DividedQuantum said: Perhaps we ought to do away with this "real man" bullshit. It seems to me that real men are really scared little boys. I think most women would agree. Do you believe in the notion of a "real man"? If so, why? And if not, why not? Is it just macho bluster, or is there substance to it?
It wasn't 'bullshit' for the movie stars, that made millions. John Wayne, Humphrey Bogart, Sean Connery, Steve MacQueen, etc. So I guess it wasn't bullshit for the audience either, they paid the billions.
The male peacock cannot 'do away with' or take off it's tail, the stag it's antlers, the lion it's mane, the gorilla it's massive build etc.
But artists, scientists, and mathematicians generally don't find the idea very interesting.
But as an ideal it is most important in the military. There, your life can depend on your buddies being tough.
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But as an ideal it is most important in the military. There, your life can depend on your buddies being tough.
I can respect that. But is the real man towing a line? Or are the real men giving back their medals?
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DieCommie

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I think its just being aggressive and macho. That's all there is to being a "real man".
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DieCommie said:
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Doesn't being a real man mean you do things that women can't or shouldn't do?
Do you deny that is what people generally mean when they say "real man"?
In certain circumstances it can mean that. I wouldn't deny that at all.
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Re: a "real man" [Re: lowbrow]
#22455722 - 10/30/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see two distinct directions in definition occurring here;
1. Macho/Alpha 2. One who takes care of family/friends/himself
How about this as a third facet?
3. One who has, and is fully attempting to, brave all their inner deamons, to the fullest extent they can
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