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OfflineDr.Wongburger
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Vaping May NOT Survive!
    #22447171 - 10/28/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Time to start stocking up on VAPOR products. Maybe out of date e-liquid wont be so bad... Them commie bastards wanna make it illegal to sell. They always wanna screw the free market... Maybe you will still be able to buy the stuff directly from china...or foreign nations as far as the mods go. I'm sure going to miss some of them great flavors if this is banned...



I know you will always be able to buy PG/VG. Flavorings.. I'm not sure but I think they can't ban the concentrated scents (for mixing, not vaping directly)! We can always make our own liquids. I don't see why people in foreign nations would stop selling the Mod's online. They are just hurting American economy/small business.. commie bastards.. :mad2:


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22447178 - 10/28/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

thats ok with me

vaping sucks phallus and will never compare to smoking be it weed or 'baccy


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #22447191 - 10/28/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I smoke cigs daily, I'm actually planing on buying a mod tomorrow! $40 for a nice evic VTC mini on ebay or amazon!

My buddy got me into it, he vapes daily- quit cigs with it but he still hits the bong daily. I enjoy the nicotine rush from a mod and sometimes just the flavor!


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22447199 - 10/28/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

good thing I know somebody who knows how to make the stuff.


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22447221 - 10/28/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not hard to make your own juice. The components all have plenty of other uses and they definitely would not ban, the only exception is the nicotine. If they tried to stop that, it'd just get pushed underground and I would absolutely order it off the darknet or something with no fear of consequences. Even if you somehow couldn't get it after the ban, you can always make it yourself.


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22447223 - 10/28/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

A mechanical mod will be the way to go or at-least have one on hand! Coils can always be remade easily. I have bought 50/50 PG/VG online, half a gallon. I plan on making CBD e-liquid with it.

My thing is, I have noooo idea how to match some of these flavors. Have you ever vaped on Pop rocks or gummy glu? It's pretty good stuff.

http://www.vapordna.com/Lost-Art-Liquids-Gummy-Glu-15ml-p/lal008.htm

I bought it locally and a bigger bottle but I want to try the pop rocks next by lost arts. The gummy glu is very very good.

I have also tried Fruit Hoops recently. I have been vaping my friends mod and using my e-cig - a normal ecig, not a mod.


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22447227 - 10/28/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Not hard to make your own juice. The components all have plenty of other uses and they definitely would not ban, the only exception is the nicotine. If they tried to stop that, it'd just get pushed underground and I would absolutely order it off the darknet or something with no fear of consequences. Even if you somehow couldn't get it after the ban, you can always make it yourself.




How do you make your own pure flavorless nicotine e liquid? I have yet to search that. I do wonder. I will search this. This could be a dangerous thing to do.. you know.. if its made to strong.. if you don't know what you are doing. being nicotine and all.. Still it sucks that they might ruin local business.


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22447228 - 10/28/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What about the concentrated nicotine? What if they ban that?

Then, I mean, you could still make zero nic juice, but fuck that.

That shit would suck. Hard.


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22447237 - 10/28/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I hear ya. Making your own flavorless concentrated nicotine e-juice sounds dangerous. And I sure as hell don't wanna buy my nicotine from china or some wack place if its still sold online from those places...


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22447262 - 10/28/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
Not hard to make your own juice. The components all have plenty of other uses and they definitely would not ban, the only exception is the nicotine. If they tried to stop that, it'd just get pushed underground and I would absolutely order it off the darknet or something with no fear of consequences. Even if you somehow couldn't get it after the ban, you can always make it yourself.




How do you make your own pure flavorless nicotine e liquid? I have yet to search that. I do wonder. I will search this. This could be a dangerous thing to do.. you know.. if its made to strong.. if you don't know what you are doing. being nicotine and all.. Still it sucks that they might ruin local business.



From memory, basically you just put tobacco leaf into some pg/vg and let it work it's magic. I haven't really looked too far into it at this point.

They make test kits for nicotine. It will tell you how strong your product is. I haven't really gotten into it but I'm going to guess you couldn't make the super concentrated stuff. Not too big of a deal, the vast majority of our juice is PG or VG anyways. Entirely possible to get the same strengths you want one way or another. You just may have to use more of the nicotine solution than we generally do.

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What about the concentrated nicotine? What if they ban that?

Then, I mean, you could still make zero nic juice, but fuck that.

That shit would suck. Hard.



Read above, even if they ban the super concentrated stuff, we can still do much better than 0 nicotine juice.

All in all, what I see going on here, is the FDA trying to take ecigs out of the hands of most current consumers. I hate to put on my tinfoil hat, but I've sat here and watched how they (not just government) have tried to kill the vaping industry. I believe it to be the work of big tobacco companies. Their regular users are dropping like flies as more people become aware of how much better ecigs are in every way imaginable.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22447265 - 10/28/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

haha...underground people growing nicotina rustica to extract it for illegal e cig juice


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22447278 - 10/28/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Won't bother me much, I actually like gardening. You can also just buy it.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22447282 - 10/28/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sir that sounds simple enough! Since they sell test kits I suppose we will be able to know how much nicotine is in the liquid- the strength. You can actually buy non fucked with tobacco leaves online- chemical free- un processed or shredded. I only like vaping on 3mg at about 65 watts at the highest!

I also agree it's big tobacco. We also have to remember the medical industry makes so much money from cancer patients. Their medicines they sell, cancer treatments and all that horse shit.

Their just pushing people into DIY. Since they can't make possession of the supplies illegal or make actual e-liquid illegal it will continue on. Only illegal to sell..

I have always enjoyed stopping by my local e-stores. I will miss hanging around those places.. as a legal consumer.. enjoying my day..


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22447306 - 10/28/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't blame the medical industry. I mean I suppose it's possible, it just doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to do. Cancer rates are already pretty damn high even without cigs, and many people can't even afford the treatment. Getting caught doing something like this would be a huge scandal. When they have plenty of other avenues to get income from, it just seems like a risk not worth taking.

I think big tobacco is behind it simply because the vast majority of their profits come from people addicted to their products. Feel free to check the math, but a rough estimate I came to is them losing just 1% of the customers to vaping basically equates to a billion dollar loss per year. I have no doubt they are frantically struggling to nip this in the bud before that 1% becomes 25%.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22447367 - 10/29/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

why are people under the impression that big tobacco cannot buy up most of the
industry and supply them from both ends, it's like big pharma and the marijuana
conspiracy, if they're making tens of billions per year, they have no problem
controlling the markets for vaping and smoking

anyway, RJR is in the food business as well, think Nabisco, they probably make
half the products used for making juice which they sell to other companies in
large drums where it's split into gallons to be sold to the people you buy from

the driving force is the libtard 'think of the children' shit, there's currently
no official regulation in the market other than some states classifying it as a
tobacco product, the disclaimers of "must be 18 or older" are coming from the
proprietors of the online and B&M stores, they've been self regulating because
they dont want shit to sneak up on them, there's no safety standards on mods
and as we've been seeing more and more of, shops are selling the products without
educating the consumer which result in people getting hurt


now for the legalities... this was just introduced to congress in case you didnt
know about it already, HR 2058, the bill is short, it's something you should read
and then if you feel strongly about it, contact your elected reps, seriously.
dont do the online petitions, actually call the people you're voging for... or
against as the case may be, you can do the petition but make the fucking call or
write them a quick letter

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2058

and if you look, it's republicans that sponsored this bill, they're the ones
trying to prevent your enjoyment of this hobby from being taken away


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22447426 - 10/29/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not sure how thinking big tobacco is behind it is a conspiracy. They stand to lose the most from this. What they're losing now may not hurt them too bad, but if the trend continues, they are going to be hurt pretty damn bad.

They can't just buy up everything, either. There are way too many damn companies and people involved, and with no regulation, they will just keep popping up endlessly. There are also no doubt many players out there who would refuse to sell out to the tobacco companies.

Without the regulation, they cannot create a monopoly. All they can do is lobby and try to push their competition out of the picture, which is what I believe they are doing.

As for them being involved in other products, that really doesn't mean anything to what I've said. I never said they were risking being put out of business. The trend will hurt them if it continues though, and pretty severely. They have a lot of motivation to try and get the spread of this stopped.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Vaping May NOT Survive! [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22447484 - 10/29/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've gotta agree with that. Sure, Big Tobacco has tried to get their hands on some vape-money, but a huge number of vape "companies" are just peeps like you and me. It's not a terribly hard industry to get in on. Hell, makin' a little batch of juice is cheaper than a mushroom grow!


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