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Machiavelliavore
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Re: First Grow-Questions for Success [Re: Oompah Loomp]
#22632582 - 12/08/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think it's bacterial. Fruits were healthy for me just mutated. Feel them, see if it feels diseased or like mycellium. I think you good dawg.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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spacechildo
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I cant see any contaminations, my money would be on fluctuations in RH, and that your RH is pretty low for prolongued times. some of the caps have cracks that seems to be from drying, also a lot of the fruits are looking quite pale like they often get when they're really dry. your cakes look more than moist enough in some of the pics tho, maybe the sunlight dry stuff out while you're away?
nothing to worry about tho they're all perfectly fine to eat.
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Oompah Loomp


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Machiavelliavore said: I don't think it's bacterial. Fruits were healthy for me just mutated. Feel them, see if it feels diseased or like mycellium. I think you good dawg.
Feels healthy for sure.
Thanks Mac
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Oompah Loomp


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Re: First Grow-Questions for Success [Re: spacechildo]
#22632625 - 12/09/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think you're on the ball with that one. Cakes are way too dry when I get home. Hmm... suppose I need to relocate my grow chamber.
Any idea on maybe taping over the top and/or side vent holes to keep up humidity?
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spacechildo
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Re: First Grow-Questions for Success [Re: Oompah Loomp]
#22632630 - 12/09/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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nah dont do that, thats not how it works, rather shut the blinds a bit more while you're away and the sun is at its brightest. a 6500k CFL bulb is great when you dont have sunlight. maybe use a light instead? a 23w cheap bulb goes a long way.
try misting them heavier before leaving tomorrow morning and go look for a light after work?
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Oompah Loomp


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Re: First Grow-Questions for Success [Re: spacechildo]
#22632659 - 12/09/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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spacechildo said: nah dont do that, thats not how it works, rather shut the blinds a bit more while you're away and the sun is at its brightest. a 6500k CFL bulb is great when you dont have sunlight. maybe use a light instead? a 23w cheap bulb goes a long way.
try misting them heavier before leaving tomorrow morning and go look for a light after work?
Alright sweet, I'll pick up a light after work. Still think I might have to move my setup into a cooler area. We've been having the odd heat wave around here.
I don't have a PC. Will casings made up of grated BRF cakes, and cased with some coir, verm etc. be happier than straight exposed PF cakes. I've been considering this for a pint cake that's busy consolidating?
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: First Grow-Questions for Success [Re: Oompah Loomp]
#22632668 - 12/09/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Spawn you cakes to coir or case them whole packed fairly close together in tray with coir. Breaking them up without adding food and watermass is probably the least optimal method.
Cheese grating creates inoculation points, which aren't going to help if you are only reshaping the cakes not expanding them into new material.
The fruiting results I've seen from these methods have looked better than what I've seen regular cakes put out.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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spacechildo
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Re: First Grow-Questions for Success [Re: Oompah Loomp]
#22632669 - 12/09/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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you can just cheese grate pf cakes into a coir+verm substrate and mix thoroughly, yeah. its a good way of trying bulk without having to buy a PC. no need to consolidate when using cakes as spawn tho
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MajorDick
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Re: First Grow-Questions for Success [Re: spacechildo]
#22632887 - 12/09/15 04:27 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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^^ what they said ;-)
Poor-mans bulk spawn. Cakes2coir4life.
Just check that terminology. You're referencing a "bulk substrate". A misnomer, i call it a secondary substrate because it doesn't really need to be "bulk". A "casing" is a different thing. A lot of people mix those up.
Anyways i did it on my first grow in a friends very dirty room using little gladware containers. Noob-luck i guess because it worked out just great.
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Oompah Loomp


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Re: First Grow-Questions for Success [Re: MajorDick]
#22633024 - 12/09/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: Spawn you cakes to coir or case them whole packed fairly close together in tray with coir. Breaking them up without adding food and watermass is probably the least optimal method.
Cheese grating creates inoculation points, which aren't going to help if you are only reshaping the cakes not expanding them into new material.
The fruiting results I've seen from these methods have looked better than what I've seen regular cakes put out.
Fucking A then! I'skip the grater then for my first go at it. Just pasteurise some coir Damion's tek seems the most economical and noob friendly.
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spacechildo said: you can just cheese grate pf cakes into a coir+verm substrate and mix thoroughly, yeah. its a good way of trying bulk without having to buy a PC. no need to consolidate when using cakes as spawn tho 
Interesting... no need to consolidate. I assume the casing needs to be as thin as possible then, quarter inch maybe?
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MajorDick said: ^^ what they said ;-)
Poor-mans bulk spawn. Cakes2coir4life.
Just check that terminology. You're referencing a "bulk substrate". A misnomer, i call it a secondary substrate because it doesn't really need to be "bulk". A "casing" is a different thing. A lot of people mix those up.
Anyways i did it on my first grow in a friends very dirty room using little gladware containers. Noob-luck i guess because it worked out just great.
Thanks dude, I'll most definitely give it read!
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spacechildo
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Re: First Grow-Questions for Success [Re: Oompah Loomp]
#22633233 - 12/09/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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no thin casing on top, mix the cheese grated cakes evenly with your coir substrate. as in mix it all together well, let colonize, be happy 
exactly like you would mix colonized grains with coir, except your broken up cakes acts as your grain spawn.
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Oompah Loomp


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Re: First Grow-Questions for Success [Re: spacechildo]
#22636558 - 12/09/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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spacechildo said: no thin casing on top, mix the cheese grated cakes evenly with your coir substrate. as in mix it all together well, let colonize, be happy 
exactly like you would mix colonized grains with coir, except your broken up cakes acts as your grain spawn.
Alright cool, got it.
Thanks Space Kid
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