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Crypsis
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Contam question (pics)
#22443851 - 10/28/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So i noticed this green mold just today in one of my jars. im guessing theres no saving the jar, so my question is;
- Whats the best way to go about disposing the jar? Would i sterilise it first then empty and sterilising again?
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syfqhnff
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: Crypsis]
#22443913 - 10/28/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wouldnt give you the answer. Because i dont have the exact official answer but ill tell you my way of doing things. Of course i would be using that jar again so i would save it. I sterilize, then dump the content, wash with bleach mix. thats it On the next round, fill up new grain and sterilize again. no problem so far. For me atleast
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: syfqhnff]
#22443928 - 10/28/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks like trichoderma to me, toss the susbstrate outside and start it over. Any of your other jars contaminated?
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Crypsis
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: YaMoonSun]
#22443952 - 10/28/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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YaMoonSun said: Looks like trichoderma to me, toss the susbstrate outside and start it over. Any of your other jars contaminated?
I dont think so, just noticed that one today though... so ill be on the lookout
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syfqhnff said: I wouldnt give you the answer. Because i dont have the exact official answer but ill tell you my way of doing things. Of course i would be using that jar again so i would save it. I sterilize, then dump the content, wash with bleach mix. thats it On the next round, fill up new grain and sterilize again. no problem so far. For me atleast
Yeah i want the jar so that sounds good. Thanks man
Edited by Crypsis (10/28/15 09:11 AM)
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: Crypsis]
#22443970 - 10/28/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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On your next go, fill the jar with subsrate and give it a few good smacks to the side of the jar to compact the substrate evenly without packing it, then continue to fill and smack/compact the jar until there's about an inch of room left for your dry layer of vermiculite. Make sure you wipe the lip of the jar before applying vermiculite otherwise bacterial growth may occur.
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: YaMoonSun]
#22444035 - 10/28/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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YaMoonSun said: On your next go, fill the jar with subsrate and give it a few good smacks to the side of the jar to compact the substrate evenly without packing it, then continue to fill and smack/compact the jar until there's about an inch of room left for your dry layer of vermiculite. Make sure you wipe the lip of the jar before applying vermiculite otherwise bacterial growth may occur.
Will do, thanks for the advice (im still really new to this lol)
Edited by Crypsis (10/28/15 09:31 AM)
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: Crypsis]
#22444039 - 10/28/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just empty it and wash with soap and water.
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YaMoonSun
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: Crypsis]
#22444104 - 10/28/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been here a year and I just started doing that. I imagine I'll get more flushes from having more substrate in the same volume of space.
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tetherface
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: YaMoonSun]
#22444202 - 10/28/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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YaMoonSun said: I've been here a year and I just started doing that. I imagine I'll get more flushes from having more substrate in the same volume of space.
or really slow colonization times/stalling from the pf-mix being packed too tightly that's why all the teks say to loosely fill the jars so you end up with a kinda lite airy texture
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: Crypsis]
#22444218 - 10/28/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crypsis said: So i noticed this green mold just today in one of my jars. im guessing theres no saving the jar, so my question is;
- Whats the best way to go about disposing the jar? Would i sterilise it first then empty and sterilising again?

You can do what Azur says or if you don't want impregnate your clothes and body with mold spores, you can submerge the 3/4 of the jar in a pot with water, heat the water kinda like the pasteurization videos of RR, heat the water to 180-200ºf and leave the jar in the hot water for an hour or so at the temp ranges i mentioned. After that it will be safe to open the jar.
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: YaMoonSun]
#22444578 - 10/28/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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YaMoonSun said: On your next go, fill the jar with subsrate and give it a few good smacks to the side of the jar to compact the substrate evenly without packing it, then continue to fill and smack/compact the jar until there's about an inch of room left for your dry layer of vermiculite. Make sure you wipe the lip of the jar before applying vermiculite otherwise bacterial growth may occur.
Dude...this is horrible advice.
And no offence, but judging by the conditions of your last two cakes that I've seen, you should definitely not be handing it out to noobs.
Op, looks like your verm barrier got wet. You wanna keep it nice and dry so contams can't take hold. Do not pack your brf, you want it to be loose in there so the myc doesn't stall.
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: tetherface]
#22444646 - 10/28/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I guess we'll see. It's not like I was packing it tightly like gunpowder in a musket. I didn't use a third party object to apply pressure to the surface, compacting it downward. I think it'll still breath nicely. Wish me luck.
Keep on sippin on that haterade, nate
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: YaMoonSun]
#22444675 - 10/28/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I said no offense
I'm just sayin, not hatin
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YaMoonSun
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horrible advice
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horrible
It's all good man, express how you feel, I'm not going to leave a bad rating for someone having an opinion. The way I see it is, it's still in testing, so no need to knock it. May turn out good if I can quit harvesting bacteria, lol
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: YaMoonSun]
#22444927 - 10/28/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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People have already tested compacting your sub, which is why they now reccomend not doing it.
But i totally get needing to figure things out for yourself, I'm just sayin the op doesn't want experimental advice, they want tried and true or they wouldn't be asking
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This should be in contam forum. Also dish soap doesn't kill bacteria or molds unless you buy one that does.
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op doesn't want experimental advice, they want tried and true
Well, regardless, OP's jar could have been a bit more full, no? That dry layer is pretty far down. OP must have a 4 inch syringe to inoculate that bad boy.
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natedawgnow said:
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YaMoonSun said: On your next go, fill the jar with subsrate and give it a few good smacks to the side of the jar to compact the substrate evenly without packing it, then continue to fill and smack/compact the jar until there's about an inch of room left for your dry layer of vermiculite. Make sure you wipe the lip of the jar before applying vermiculite otherwise bacterial growth may occur.
Dude...this is horrible advice.
I agree.
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: PussyFart]
#22445125 - 10/28/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: YaMoonSun]
#22445129 - 10/28/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with you there.
It should be filled to about 1/2 inch below the rim and topped with dry verm, but what he did should still work, but his verm looks wet which is probably what let the contam in.
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: Arush]
#22445217 - 10/28/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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YaMoonSun wasn't saying to "pack" it down. I think op understood what he meant.
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Arush said: This should be in contam forum. Also dish soap doesn't kill bacteria or molds unless you buy one that does.
It does wash them away and then the jar gets sterilized the next time it is used for grain, which does kill anything left behind.
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: azur]
#22445279 - 10/28/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ya...you're right. He said to compact it down. Is there a difference by your definition?
Just curious
Op is a noob; so why give them advice that could possibly hinder their grow instead of tried and true methods?
Just sayin'
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Ok. Whatever he said, he wasn't implying to compact it down and it's obvious. I think you're a cool guy nate. Don't change that. None of this petty shit matters.
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When I did cakes I filled the jar up very loosely all the way to the top, used a knife to scrape away the excess so it was flush with the top of the jar...then I'd drop it from about 3 inches in height one time, MAYBE twice...then wipe the rim with a paper towel and add the dry verm...I packed my first round too tight and they sure in the fuck stalled.
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: azur]
#22445340 - 10/28/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you're cool too, mayne. And i have some serious respect for you as a grower and as what appears to be a genuine, caring dude behind a keyboard. I'm not tryin to be petty just tryin to help people out.
I remember being a straight noob and making a lot of mistakes due to unknowingly bad information. I was a lurker long before i made my profile so i know the feeling of being lost in this hobby.
Just tryin to help op and yamoonsun not make those same mistakes.
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Re: Contam question (pics) [Re: azur]
#22445384 - 10/28/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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