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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Inocuole]
    #22452429 - 10/30/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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That's a more acceptable way to dispose of them, but I also don't rinse my grains.

I remember one of my first batches of WBS being dirty as hell and needing like 10 rinses.  I get the same WBS now sometimes and it requires no rinsing at all. :shrug:

I dunno wtf I was smoking, nor what everyone else doing this mycology stuff was smoking for the last 15 years.  If I had to recommend a viable solution for the hobbyist mushroom grower, take all the floaters and put them in a separate jar and PC that, use it as supplemental spawn.  Easier way to avoid this conversation?  Use oats.





This is off topic but I have a question about self healing injection ports if you use them.

When inoculating through them do I just push the syringe through the silicone? The needle end on my last syringe wasn't sharp at all and I don't want to bend or break my needle.


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Tawksin]
    #22452481 - 10/30/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Are... you asking if you're supposed to stab the injection port? :confused2:

I mean... uh....  what else would you do with it?  The needle needs to be at least a bit sharp not to catch onto, and ruin the port.


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Inocuole]
    #22452700 - 10/30/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Are... you asking if you're supposed to stab the injection port? :confused2:

I mean... uh....  what else would you do with it?  The needle needs to be at least a bit sharp not to catch onto, and ruin the port.



More so what I'm trying to ask is:

Am I going to have trouble stabbing it. The needle that came with my last syringe had more of a rounded off tip than a shape tip and if the new syringes I get have needles like that I would assume that it would be hard to force it through the silicone.


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Tawksin]
    #22452816 - 10/30/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

go to TSC and buy new sharp needles for under 3$ :shrug: you probably might have to get shorter ones as they never have 2" at my local store but they still work just fine


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Tawksin]
    #22452822 - 10/30/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its a hot needle.

The problem is when they get used a whole bunch ruffly and the needle forms a barb from the tip getting bent back, then it can rip the port out.


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #22452888 - 10/30/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Its a hot needle.

The problem is when they get used a whole bunch ruffly and the needle forms a barb from the tip getting bent back, then it can rip the port out.



what's a hot needle? I don't think ive ever heard that one and im up on my needle jive lol... the other dudes needles were blunts so there was never a point on them to get a barb on it AFAIK


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: tetherface]
    #22453114 - 10/30/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Its a hot needle.

The problem is when they get used a whole bunch ruffly and the needle forms a barb from the tip getting bent back, then it can rip the port out.




I thought hot needles killed off the spores?


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Tawksin]
    #22453153 - 10/30/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Its a hot needle.

The problem is when they get used a whole bunch ruffly and the needle forms a barb from the tip getting bent back, then it can rip the port out.




I thought hot needles killed off the spores?



After flame sterilizing your needle, squirt out a little bit of solution( in your SAB of course). This will cool down the tip of the needle enough to inject into your jars and your spores will be fine. :smile:


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22453639 - 10/30/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

the needle is so thin it cools down real fast. dont stab your SHIP with a red hot needle it'll fuck it up.
easiest is to just say fuck ships, crack the lid and inject whatever you want!


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: spacechildo]
    #22453650 - 10/30/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Can ditch the needle that way too.  Just twist out the plug, inoculate everything, and twist it back in when you're done.

Can't do any of that without a SAB and decent lid-cracking technique.


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: spacechildo]
    #22453654 - 10/30/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Can ditch the needle, and with it, flame sterilization that way too.  Just twist out the plug, inoculate everything, and twist it back in when you're done.

Can't do any of that without a SAB and decent lid-cracking technique.


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Inocuole]
    #22453662 - 10/30/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

you're gonna need a decent lid cracking technique at last no matter what you do in this hobby!
muda the fuka dont even use a syringe he just pours liquid straight into the jars.


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: spacechildo]
    #22454011 - 10/30/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Cracking the lid is my favorite as well (less points of contact).

So I guess you guys cool the needle first. My reasoning for keeping the needle hot when using a SHIP, was that it just seemed that it was creating a weak point and reverting back to sanitation instead of sterility.

Some tops would sit around a few days in a tote and I didnt trust the tin foil to protect the SHIP after PC'ing so I would swab with iso. Maybe you guys dont do this either.

I've never had a problem hurting the SHIP's this way. I have pulled them out if the needle was barbed.


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #22454206 - 10/30/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Holy shit OP, I used to get that same bag from Walmart and it never had that amount of cracked corn in it. Your Walmart might also carry Pennington brand, try that.

I found a local? brand at the chain grocery stores we have around here for $0.30/lb, shop around!


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