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Tawksin
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Wild bird seed
#22443841 - 10/28/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm currently in the process of doing my first ever grow using of cakes. But I'm in the planning stage for my second. I'll be using WBS to do a grain to bulk grow. I've been following franks tek. (http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17252080#17252080) Everyone says go to Walmart and get the economy bag of WBS, and I did. But mine doesn't seem to match up. I guess my question is. Will this still work? And is there anything I should pick out of it.
Here's pictures of mine compared to franks



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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Tawksin]
#22443855 - 10/28/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anything that floats gets removed, I see red millet in your tray, so it can work I guess. If you live near a Kroger they sell bags of WBS that have exactly what you want for ~$5
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Tawksin
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Mycologist217 said: Anything that floats gets removed, I see red millet in your tray, so it can work I guess. If you live near a Kroger they sell bags of WBS that have exactly what you want for ~$5
Do you know what brand it is?
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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Tawksin]
#22444051 - 10/28/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can leave in floaters... it doesn't cause any harm... but that is a large amount of corn and sunflower seeds. The millet and milo are the good bits.
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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Tawksin]
#22444080 - 10/28/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You may have issues because of the "grain products."
Which looks like broken up corn.
I use to use Pennington's Eco mix from walmart with great success.
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Tawksin
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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: DrCrumbs]
#22444093 - 10/28/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: You can leave in floaters... it doesn't cause any harm... but that is a large amount of corn and sunflower seeds. The millet and milo are the good bits.
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DrCrumbs said: You may have issues because of the "grain products."
Which looks like broken up corn.
I use to use Pennington's Eco mix from walmart with great success.
That's what I was thinking because I've read several times that you don't want cracked corn to be in it. Which is strange to be because I bought the exact bag that Frank was talking about. His didn't have corn in it and mine did, lol.
So I ran by Kroger from Myco's suggestion and found this bag that I think I'm going to go with instead of the other one I got.


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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: DrCrumbs]
#22444097 - 10/28/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking too, because I'm pretty sure I've used that first bag you got.
I dunno how bad the corn really is, since I just avoided it all the time. I have found that busted up stuff, does seem to contam easier though.
That new bag you have looks really nice.
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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Inocuole]
#22444103 - 10/28/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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even easier and nowadays seemingly preferred buy whole oats and read innocules intergalactic space oat prep in his sig above. I used to use the wal mart seed but its crap compared to oats IMO its a hassle to prep birdseed as your trying to evenly hydrate several different types of grain and don't get me wrong birdseed does work just fine
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Yeah whole oats (animal feed) is what I'm using now also and they are amazing. I also really like rye grass seed.
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filthyknees
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Going offopic but I must agree with the poster above me. Oats are much easier and cheaper (for me). I've preped hundreds of lbs of wbs. Oats soak for 2+ hours, strain then load. No way simpler that I've found. But if you insist on wbs/already have it I would suggest foomans wbs tek - it's the easiest and all I would ever use for wbs.
Floaters are fine - are we still talking about this really
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OP there seems to be alot of corn in that mix corn can be suspect I use cheap ass stuff from the dollar store that has cracked corn in it but the amount is minimal but yeah That stuff looks fine as long as you PC it properly you should be good. As a side note everyone seems to start with brf cakes and when I moved to WBS I found it so much simpler.
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I use the Kroger brand "wild bird seed" with no additives
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this is what i use
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Tawskin. That seed is junk. It's got cracked corn in it. I bought the same stuff from Wal-Mart before. You can use it but it's messy and sticky. Get the stuff that tripdawg has in his photo.
Wal-Mart used to sell a cheap red and white bag of wbs. That is what Frank used. The cheap stuff now has corn in it.
No need to remove the floaters. Not sure why the person would recommend it
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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: tahoe]
#22444830 - 10/28/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i have used that stuff in a pinch and it gave me no issues, but i still prefer pennington classic, when properly done it shakes around really well with no clumpage, wether you are adding gypsum or not
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Tawksin
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I decided to give the bag of bird seed to my mom. And went out and picked these up.
My dog approves.
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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Tawksin]
#22447268 - 10/28/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hate to tell you. But oats kind of suck. Bid seed is superior to oats. But some use them just fine.
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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: tahoe] 1
#22447270 - 10/28/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oats suck, use WBS. That's gold.
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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: tahoe]
#22447276 - 10/28/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used WBS the first round..... I was happy with it, but I avoided sunflower seeds and cracked corn. It looks like this mix has both. I used wild finch mix. The seeds were really small, but no starchy mess.
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Re: Wild bird seed [Re: Kalistis]
#22447288 - 10/28/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like the oats so far. Much easier prep IMO. I can't speak for yield yet as my first oat tubs are still fruiting, but they seem happy. They also reached full colonization at the same time as the seed and I was able to differentiate potential problems better in the oats than in the seed due to uniformity of the oats in shape and color. To each is is their own.
I will say that my GT WBS monotubs are pinning like mad which I suppose is a healthy mix of genetics and the WBS. So? I will have to do WBS again in the future because I have 35 pounds left. I wish I had a freezer large enough to freeze it!
If you have the oats now, I recommend sticking with it. Easy for the first time bulk project.
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