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Re: Amanita Muscaria - is it really a psychoactive? [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #22452136 - 10/30/15 03:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Wish I could remember where I found this (very well might have been here. lol) but I might still have the pdf around somewhere. Though it could be tricky to turn up, if I even still have it. (Just had a quick look and it's not on this computer. Maybe on my external or somewhere else...)




It's Donala E. Teeter's E-paper. http://ambrosiasociety.org/download.html

Worth a read. It's got some recipes for Wine and other stuff. I'm making the wine ATM - should be ready by christmas :smile:

I only expect it to be good as a pick up tonic. So far I've not really had much luck with AM - I think Muscimol is tricky to get from Muscaria. I do know that none of the methods for decarboxylating AM have worked for me. Dry heat, simmering, tea, ambrosia etc.

So growing the mycelium in a sterile jar (ibotenic acid) then getting it to 190 is the last shot I'm gonna give this.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - is it really a psychoactive? [Re: xeberdee]
    #22452150 - 10/30/15 03:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I heard fantastic accounts of visionary A.Muscaria trips so yes, it can be quite entheogenic.



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Re: Amanita Muscaria - is it really a psychoactive? [Re: xeberdee]
    #22454109 - 10/30/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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It's Donala E. Teeter's E-paper. http://ambrosiasociety.org/download.html

Worth a read. It's got some recipes for Wine and other stuff. I'm making the wine ATM - should be ready by christmas :smile:

I only expect it to be good as a pick up tonic. So far I've not really had much luck with AM - I think Muscimol is tricky to get from Muscaria. I do know that none of the methods for decarboxylating AM have worked for me. Dry heat, simmering, tea, ambrosia etc.

So growing the mycelium in a sterile jar (ibotenic acid) then getting it to 190 is the last shot I'm gonna give this.






Yeah, pretty sure that's it. Figures you'd know exactly what I was talking about. :lol:

And thanks for the link, because I looked through my external HD and ebook archives last night, and didn't see it anywhere.

Good luck with the experiments! Let us know how it turns out. I've always been kinda fascinated by this stuff, but pretty scared to try it.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - is it really a psychoactive? [Re: lavod] * 1
    #22457518 - 10/31/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Muscaria is'nt for all.  It may be time to accept that they are'nt to your liking and there's nothing wrong with that.  I never got much out ov n,n-dmt personally.





:smile: Well - I like em. I think just as much as Psilocybin, well in a different way. They give a me a totally controllable trip if I build it up. I like doing that. Taking more than 10g at one is not for me, it knocks me out, but today I've eaten about 3 or 4 caps so far, and I'm not sleepy and it's getting nice. Playing along to some fine music, nibbling and chilling with Muscaria.

Brilliant.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - is it really a psychoactive? [Re: xeberdee]
    #22457597 - 10/31/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe you would trip more if you ate them raw.  If what you said about the ibotenic acid content is true.  It's more the psychedelic part of the mushroom.  You are correct about the GABAergic properties of the muscimol.  It's like taking a lorazapam or barb.  The vikings used to eat Amanita muscaria to ease pre-battle jitters.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - is it really a psychoactive? [Re: Hippocampus]
    #22457760 - 10/31/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Maybe you would trip more if you ate them raw.  If what you said about the ibotenic acid content is true.  It's more the psychedelic part of the mushroom.  You are correct about the GABAergic properties of the muscimol.  It's like taking a lorazapam or barb.  The vikings used to eat Amanita muscaria to ease pre-battle jitters.





I've got one little cap that is half raw. It's the last I found this year. So down the hatch with it, see what happens.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria - is it really a psychoactive? [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #22465852 - 11/02/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Good luck with the experiments! Let us know how it turns out. I've always been kinda fascinated by this stuff, but pretty scared to try it.




Don't be scared - work it out. If you are an adult, then you can always keep the dose very low to experiment with - first I did was 2 gram. If you are under 18, then ignore me. You will ignore me no matter what I say anyway.

I would suggest eating a cap every 1.5 or 2 hours, and don't drink your piss, especially if you have a stash - as the so called 'living water' does nothing that the dried AM doesn't do - believe me. Those claims are just pure BS - but then again, I guess if supplies are limited, and you don't believe me... (I had to try it to cross it off my list of potentials)

I (50), find them a very weak 'trip' in effect compared to say liberty caps. 250 Liberty caps (4.5g) can take you places, but AM has not really took me anywhere yet - maybe down the stairs if you count that (I must have tripped :smile:).

BUT - maybe it effects everyone differently.. for me it is not like tripping on Psilocybin - it's comparable in moments of weak visuals, but nothing even close to Psilocybin. I would say for me that one gram dry AM is comparable to about 2 raw Liberty Cap mushrooms as a visual psychoactive. So 10g of AM has a visual quality of about 20 LC's - really weak and in a different way. BUT even 15g of AM is dangerous SEDATIVE, it will knock me out and cause me to sleep (and to walk) - and at high doses it doesn't give me any more visual trip than say 30 LC's do. 

I fell again in an AM sleep last night, after 40g over the weekend. This time it was only at the top of the stairs, but it was enough that I remember talking to my wife about something related to her concern over me. I couldn't remember the event - so I asked her why we spoke in the night. She told me she heard me fall over on the landing at the top of the stairs. She came in and asked if I was OK. 

This is why I think over 10g is potentially dangerous, as I have no control over what I do when I sleep on AM. Plus I NEVER sleepwalk normally. So if you start suddenly walking about like I do, then it's probably not a good idea to be messing around with large doses hoping to get a better trip (which I wasn't even doing).


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Re: Amanita Muscaria - is it really a psychoactive? [Re: Salomon]
    #26335143 - 11/21/19 07:18 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Could you give me a little help please, I'm also trying to isolate the Alkaloids.

Could you tell me what your process is to get the result you show here? And did you move forward with this and salt out the Muscimol? If so is there any chance you could give me a break down on how you took this further.

Really exciting and interesting stuff, thank you for sharing!

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Re: Amanita Muscaria - is it really a psychoactive? [Re: xeberdee]
    #26335355 - 11/21/19 08:55 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It’s not active for everybody.  My experience was extremely psychoactive.


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