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UK Liberty Cap ID
    #22443584 - 10/28/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I found these on a wet lawn today. Are they Liberty Caps? I have a spore print being made. It's been rainy and grey for the past few days. Thanks for looking.























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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: granite]
    #22443603 - 10/28/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Various mycena, psathyrella, and panaeolus species.

None active. Try looking in meadows or sheep/cow pastures :smile: never really seen many libs on lawns.


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #22444031 - 10/28/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, it was a grass meadow tbf. Thanks for looking. I've just been for another hunt, I'm not feeling very hopeful about this haul either but I'll get some pics up anyway.


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: granite]
    #22444249 - 10/28/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Here's most of the haul from the second outing. Different field this time.
The ones I suspect of being Liberty Caps are 23,24,27,28,2,3,4,8,11,13.
How'd I do?



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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: granite]
    #22444327 - 10/28/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

22,23,24,27,28 are liberty caps. The others look like Mycena. Liberty caps have fairly dark purpleish gills unlike the pale gills of Mycena. Liberty caps also have flexible stems that you can bend around your finger without breaking apart while Mycena have fairly fragile brittle stems.

Also if you do a spore print the liberty caps will be dark brownish purple while those Mycena will be white. This can help you separate the two.

You've found some libs so it should be much easier in the future :cool:


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: CharlesBruce]
    #22444486 - 10/28/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Good tip bout the stem being flexible enough to bend around your finger. I'll keep that in mind when I go to a cow farm today.


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: beachbum2]
    #22444613 - 10/28/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Good tip bout the stem being flexible enough to bend around your finger. I'll keep that in mind when I go to a cow farm today.



Good luck man. Remember slight transparency whilst wet is another good sign.


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #22444821 - 10/28/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the ID. It's good to have clarification. I guess I'll be moving onto different lands for better luck.


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: granite]
    #22445748 - 10/28/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm yet to find a liberty cap but have found two different types today that I'd be really grateful for some ID on. The first are smaller, sticky, with a very obvious viscid layer that can be peeled away now they're drying out (drizzly day) - found on a grassy path in a pine forest, very sticky when wet, a little nipple on the cap, flexible stems.


The second bigger ones I was really excited about because they did appear to have a nipple but the stalks are really fibrous and break when bent and although they've dried from the top down to a much paler buff (drying obviously from the top down is an identifying feature of a lib, right?) they weren't on the path, they were next to it most definitely coming through the freshly fallen leaves of a beech tree, so I think I've yet to find a liberty cap :-( I'm so keen to learn though so anything you can point out as a help to me for next time would be great - thanks for looking!


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: Roozy]
    #22445764 - 10/28/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm yet to find a liberty cap but have found two different types today that I'd be really grateful for some ID on. The first are smaller, sticky, with a very obvious viscid layer that can be peeled away now they're drying out (drizzly day) - found on a grassy path in a pine forest, very sticky when wet, a little nipple on the cap, flexible stems.


The second bigger ones I was really excited about because they did appear to have a nipple but the stalks are really fibrous and break when bent and although they've dried from the top down to a much paler buff (drying obviously from the top down is an identifying feature of a lib, right?) they weren't on the path, they were next to it most definitely coming through the freshly fallen leaves of a beech tree, so I think I've yet to find a liberty cap :-( I'm so keen to learn though so anything you can point out as a help to me for next time would be great - thanks for looking!




Can we get gill pics of first one?

Second one compare it to psathyrella sp


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: Roozy]
    #22445838 - 10/28/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Roozy said:
I'm yet to find a liberty cap but have found two different types today that I'd be really grateful for some ID on. The first are smaller, sticky, with a very obvious viscid layer that can be peeled away now they're drying out (drizzly day) - found on a grassy path in a pine forest, very sticky when wet, a little nipple on the cap, flexible stems.




The first and second ones looks like a Mycena. The 3rd look like Psathyrella. The stems of liberty caps are flexible and can bent around a finger, while Psathyrella have very brittle stems. Many species are also poisonous so do not eat.

Open grassy fields are place to look for liberty caps especially ones on hills grazed by sheep. I've never found them near a forest so get out into the wide open. Liberty caps love wild, exposed grasslands in my findings!


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #22445875 - 10/28/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



These are the gills on the smaller ones. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: CharlesBruce]
    #22445886 - 10/28/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you! I shall get out onto the marshland nearby which has been grazed by cows occasionally over the past couple of years. Probably my best bet around here. It's so good to have people who know to come and ask advice from :smile:


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: Roozy]
    #22445889 - 10/28/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Roozy said:


These are the gills on the smaller ones. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!



Yeah, mycena, not active.

The other guy gave good advice :smile: I agree with him.

EDIT: good luck with your cow fields, post any finds you're not sure about on the forum and people will help.


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Re: UK Liberty Cap ID [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #22447696 - 10/29/15 02:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup: Thanks, I appreciate that. You guys are so friendly and helpful - this forum - what a resource!


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