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pineninja
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: Asante]
#22447934 - 10/29/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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MinnesnowtaNice said: You don't need it to be a good person. You should be a good person for you not anyone else.
Thats seriously spiritually shortsighted. Its all about giving.
You cant give what you ain't got. True altruism only occurs when one is happy with oneself tis a tainted gift otherwise.
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Asante
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: pineninja] 1
#22447940 - 10/29/15 06:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not as much talking materially as spiritually. Being a giving person as opposed to always looking out for no 1.
You don't need a happy happy life to be a giving person. Life messed me up more than a Happy Tree Friend and I still give with both hands in all directions where it falls in fertile soil.
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: pineninja]
#22447952 - 10/29/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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God may have a personal interest in the affairs on this planet ... or He may not ... hard to say given all the confusion, violence and distortion ... Hard to imagine why a "loving God" would enable so much evil to thrive on our planet.
But one thing is for sure, the Romans created the myths that became Jesus/Christianity. There very well may have been a popular Jewish Rabbi we now call Jesus, but it was the Roman co-opting of the Christian movement that put it on the map and kept it there.
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pineninja
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: Asante]
#22447986 - 10/29/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: I'm not as much talking materially as spiritually. Being a giving person as opposed to always looking out for no 1.
You don't need a happy happy life to be a giving person. Life messed me up more than a Happy Tree Friend and I still give with both hands in all directions where it falls in fertile soil.
I too was referring to the spiritual side of things. All I am trying to say is that the only thing you can give to others is yourself. IMO The "happier" you are the better the gift.
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: pineninja]
#22448005 - 10/29/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh and to the subject of the thread... The torture you purport to feel is but a false emotion created by yourself to feel like someone cares. Believe it or not you are god, and you do exist, that should be all you need.
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: pineninja]
#22448729 - 10/29/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is no biblical basis for the belief in hell:
"Are there Bible verses that clearly describe "hell," explaining its origins and purpose? Hell no! If you study "hell" in the Bible, you're in for a long, fruitless search for facts, definitions and explanations. Why? Because the Hebrew prophets never mentioned a place where human beings writhe in eternal torment, gnashing their teeth forever. Nor did the prophets ever mention even the possibility of suffering after death. Isn't that extremely odd, if there really is a hell and God wanted us to know how to avoid it? The Hebrew Bible (our Old Testament) mentions a place called Sheol, but as I will demonstrate below—quoting book, chapter and verse—the Hebrew word Sheol clearly means "the grave" or "the abode of all the dead, good and bad." The same is true in the New Testament, where the Greek word Hades also clearly means "the grave" or "the abode of all the dead." Nor does Gehenna mean "hell," as I explain below. So "hell" is not a biblical teaching at all, but a harrowing mistranslation used by charlatans to brainwash believers into forking over their hard-earned money while obeying commandments they never bothered to observe themselves. (It seems hell hath no fury like a hypocritical moralist out to control other people's behavior.) Unfortunately, the innocents who suffer most from this hellish dogma are highly impressionable children who trust their parents, pastors, youth directors and Sunday School teachers not to mislead them"
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: Moonshoe]
#22448745 - 10/29/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Unfortunately, the innocents who suffer most from this hellish dogma are highly impressionable children who trust their parents, pastors, youth directors and Sunday School teachers not to mislead them"
as in ... "come son and sit on my lap and let's talk about Jesus ... oh ... my ... aren't you a good looking boy ... "
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22448761 - 10/29/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I question why god dude just give us a switch to flip when we needed to shit. I've been sitting on the can for an hour with no luck. My ass is numb
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: ManianFH]
#22448765 - 10/29/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i hope you like hemorroids
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#22448796 - 10/29/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's these chemo-shits. They are giving me platinum so it's like rocks falling out of my ass
Don't smoke kids
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: ManianFH]
#22448833 - 10/29/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Got it.
And ppl say God isn't loving. My ass begs to differ
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Re: Why Did a Loving God Create infinite torture for not believing in it? [Re: ManianFH]
#22449099 - 10/29/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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we wouldn't learn a damn thing if things were happy fun time
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