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OfflineOliverJames
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Use and Abuse?
    #22442477 - 10/27/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What's the difference between a drug user, and drug abuser, specifically in regards to weed, psychedelics and dissociatives?

I used to find that I got along with other people who experimented with drugs, but I quickly realized there was a huge difference between the way I used them, and the way others did. It's the difference between tripping occasionally, and tripping multiple times a week. I've met people who will go through hundreds of tabs over the course of a festival to keep themselves tripping. I've met people who will roll every few months, and people who will roll all weekend, every weekend. I've met people who will do ketamine together every so often, and people who are doing bumps all day long.

I'm not judging the people who use them more than I do, I've just found that I instinctively don't get along well with these people at all. I'm not trying to one-up anybody. I keep me use low because I've found that using almost any drug too often messes with my state of mind. I understand they effect everybody differently.

What do you guys think?


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Re: Use and Abuse? [Re: OliverJames]
    #22442491 - 10/27/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

all depends on perspective i think

example: probably 99% of people would say i 'abuse' alcohol. but its because of anxiety, and doctors don't wont prescribe me a safer substitute until i go through withdrawals, which i cannot do without spending thousands of dollars in an inpatient detox clinic

at this point, i feel like i'm using alcohol, not abusing it. there is no other substitute available to me


so my advice: if you dont like your friends, or how often they use drugs, dont be friends with them. dont be sanctimonious and constantly give them advice they didnt ask for, it would be better to just stop talking to them.

some people are just at their wits end and drugs are all they have to cope. if you dont like that, its cool. but dont go staging interventions or something.


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Re: Use and Abuse? [Re: OliverJames]
    #22442568 - 10/27/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Abuse has a negative impact on your quality of life and possibly others around you. Use doesn't hinder your quality of life, but may or may not have a negative affect on someone else's around you. :shrug: Depends on the situation and perspective though, really. When I buy heroin or coke once every few months or more, I consider it use, but my family or anyone else I know that doesn't think I should be using any of it would consider it abuse.


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Re: Use and Abuse? [Re: Adolin]
    #22442603 - 10/27/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Gresh said:
so my advice: if you dont like your friends, or how often they use drugs, dont be friends with them. dont be sanctimonious and constantly give them advice they didnt ask for, it would be better to just stop talking to them.

some people are just at their wits end and drugs are all they have to cope. if you dont like that, its cool. but dont go staging interventions or something.




QFT

I noticed that a lot more since I moved to SF from the East Coast.

It's funny, everyone here wants to *appear* like they are helping.

When the time comes nobody's gonna step up, but fuck - ain't it so easy to be self-righteous?

Get off your damn pedestal and shut the fuck up until you've been through what I've been through. :lol:

At least, that's the way I see this shit 98% of the time.


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Re: Use and Abuse? [Re: OliverJames]
    #22442611 - 10/27/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The line probably changes depending on the person and the drug, so hard to come up with an easy rule, but I'd say if it hampers the quality of one's life, its not good.
If you want to stop but can't make yourself, then you're well and truly an abuser. Up till then I think its all shades of grey really


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Re: Use and Abuse? [Re: OliverJames] * 1
    #22442768 - 10/27/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Haha you've met people who taken hundreds of acid tabs in a typical weekend? WTF, wasteful bastards.


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Re: Use and Abuse? [Re: Sheekle]
    #22442795 - 10/27/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Users respect drugs abusers think there in control.


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