Home | Community | Message Board

MushroomMan Mycology
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2  [ show all ]
Invisiblebadchad
Mad Scientist

Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 13,372
Re: self driving cars and Asimov's Laws [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #22450238 - 10/29/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think it'll be a gradual change. We already have assisted parallel parking, and the cameras are getting more advanced (multiangle, bird's eye view, etc.). Automated braking systems will evolve, and eventually your brakes will be engaged for you. This will get people "used" to feeling their cars automatically brake. Soon after you'll have "local" self driving spots where you might pull into McDonald's and have the ADC take over in a relatively safe, confined area. Then it'll move to highways where cars are (more or less) all doing the same thing anyway.

It'll be slow enough people won't fear it, they'll just get used to it.


--------------------
...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisible4HO-DMT
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/11/11
Posts: 5,073
Loc: County Line Road
Re: self driving cars and Asimov's Laws [Re: CosmicFool]
    #22451019 - 10/29/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Going off the way that capitalism works, probably the person that owns the robot would be saved rather than the 10 civilians. I mean, if the technology is sophisticated enough, then I am sure it would be programmed to protect its owner before protecting others.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTantrika
Miss Ann Thrope
Female


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/26/12
Posts: 17,138
Loc: Lashed to the pyre
Re: self driving cars and Asimov's Laws [Re: CosmicFool]
    #22742574 - 01/06/16 01:38 AM (8 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

CosmicFool said:
Quote:

LeningradCowboy said:
"Through inaction, allow human being to come to harm."

What I'm saying is that robot does not allow the scenario to happen:shrug:




in a perfect situation the robot would be able to identify and avoid this situation entirely
but robotics/ai is in it's infancy and a long way from perfect
if it processes the information too slow,
it's sensors are inadequate,
there is a bug/malfunction,
or unusual conditions (rain, snow, ice, tornados, etc)
than mistakes can happen

it's all a backup fail safe
the plan b

not to mention the only way a robot will obey Asimov's law
is if it's programed to




Just to revive this thread, Nvidia recently announced making quite large strides in terms of the AI required to handle things like this.

The intimidatingly named Drivenet, where they propose having actively learning cars on the road connected via the cloud, constantly updating each other with newly learned information and scenarios.

They have apparently released a supercomputer that companies are presently using to make self-driving cars.

90 second summary of their presentation at CES this year:



Will not link everything from their presentation, but all 9 parts can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/nvidia/videos

Videos 1-4/5 are focused on the recent strides made in terms of recognition and everything.

There was some really interesting accomplishments that they discussed, such as the recognition software now being at the point that in situations like snow the computer can identify and track vehicles that may not be readily visible to the human eye.
It also continually maps and records the car's position in 3d space, so it is simultaneously taking in data from all points rather than sequentially checking areas like the human visual field.

Not to say that this immediately answers the issue presented in the OP, but generally the effort seems to be to make a system robust enough to prepare for and prevent such risks.

Found the presentation interesting, thought you may as well. :cookiemonster:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCosmicFool
Psychoholic
 User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/06
Posts: 9,581
Loc: 203 Flag
Last seen: 23 days, 1 hour
Re: self driving cars and Asimov's Laws [Re: Tantrika]
    #22742890 - 01/06/16 06:11 AM (8 years, 25 days ago)

great not only can machines start thinking for themselves
but now they have a hive mind too

I guess I better start learning binary
so that I can take orders from my new robot masters


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2  [ show all ]

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* My new car. Larrythescaryrex 903 6 05/19/03 01:47 PM
by Elise
* crashed girls car
( 1 2 3 4 all )
norwegian1 6,328 76 11/19/04 05:54 PM
by norwegian1
* Cheap car insurance? Baby_Hitler 1,469 8 01/09/04 10:25 PM
by Baby_Hitler
* Defensive driving..... Hooty 1,030 14 07/02/04 02:14 AM
by kadakuda
* So i've been doing some work on my car... Droz 1,458 12 04/22/04 03:45 PM
by K20A2
* question about trading a car for a ticket to bonnaroo... ZippoZM 1,393 11 03/25/05 10:56 AM
by Vvellum
* selling my car, need advice zorbman 3,800 10 06/09/04 08:56 PM
by Legoulash
* Whats the law for car searching in Canada barfightlard 917 4 12/22/04 08:44 AM
by Jim

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Entire Staff
2,409 topic views. 7 members, 68 guests and 41 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.