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LethalWeapon
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wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency?
#22440083 - 10/27/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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the title says it all. 
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Scientia
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: LethalWeapon]
#22440102 - 10/27/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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LethalWeapon
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: Scientia]
#22440105 - 10/27/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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YaMoonSun
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: Scientia]
#22440118 - 10/27/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would presume, as heat destroys actives; Perhaps you could do a seeping brew in the fridge though? Iced psychedelic tea doesn't sound have bad. Could probably add other herbs to it too. Although if you're thinking cannabis, it has to be activated using heat, or a combination of coconut juice and citrus of your choice.
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: LethalWeapon]
#22440120 - 10/27/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nope The actives don't degrade until temps well over 300f. Steep your mushrooms for at least twenty minutes before straining to get most of the goodies out (you can also do a second extraction with more hot water to get the remaining actives out), then sip, and enjoy!
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LethalWeapon
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22440127 - 10/27/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful said: Nope The actives don't degrade until temps well over 300f. Steep your mushrooms for at least twenty minutes before straining to get most of the goodies out (you can also do a second extraction with more hot water to get the remaining actives out), then sip, and enjoy! 
have you tried it before ? does the trip come on any faster/stronger
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: LethalWeapon]
#22440134 - 10/27/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Faster and more gradual, as it is hot and absorbs better and you are sipping it.
The alkaloids won't get destroyed by heat, however in water like that, enzymes can destroy them.
This isn't a problem if you expect to do it right away, or soon after.
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: LethalWeapon]
#22440136 - 10/27/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
LethalWeapon said:
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Psilosoulful said: Nope The actives don't degrade until temps well over 300f. Steep your mushrooms for at least twenty minutes before straining to get most of the goodies out (you can also do a second extraction with more hot water to get the remaining actives out), then sip, and enjoy! 
have you tried it before ? does the trip come on any faster/stronger
It hits you faster for sure, there's no uncomfortable come-up stage, which is a major plus. However, the trip doesn't last as long as eating them straight up. It seems to wear off around the 4 hour mark for me.
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: LethalWeapon]
#22440138 - 10/27/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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any potency loss due to heat is very minor and fixed by tossing a couple extra caps in, you can grill them boil them bake them do what ya want
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: LethalWeapon]
#22440141 - 10/27/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude, Making Tea does not make it less potent. In fact for me the effect is grater. Dump your mushrooms powder in lemon juice and let it sit for 20 minutes or so, the lemon will extract the actives. Then make a tea with that.
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YaMoonSun
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22440153 - 10/27/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So just let the boiling water settle for a minute before pouring it?
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: YaMoonSun]
#22440160 - 10/27/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nah. Boiling water is 212F psilocin degrades at 340 and psilocybin at 380-390. Much higher than boiling water.
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LethalWeapon
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: Mr. Alien]
#22440164 - 10/27/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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a shorter, stronger, faster coming on trip sounds better imo.. sometimes i don't like to be fucked up for 7 hours lol.. anyone have a good shroom tea recipe ?
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: Mad Season]
#22440179 - 10/27/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Feels a lot hotter when you burn yourself with it.
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: Mad Season]
#22440183 - 10/27/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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TBH, it might be best to boil it or use even hotter water under pressure. This would cause the proteins to denature along with any enzymes like phosphatases and reducing stabilizers for redox.
Then again, why bother? If you want to store something store the mushies, not the tea.
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: LethalWeapon]
#22440192 - 10/27/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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LethalWeapon said: a shorter, stronger, faster coming on trip sounds better imo.. sometimes i don't like to be fucked up for 7 hours lol.. anyone have a good shroom tea recipe ?
I just blended the stuff in a blender (or you can use a coffee grinder) and passed it 3x through the coffee maker. The only thing I added was sugar, since it is rather bitter otherwise.
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: YaMoonSun]
#22440201 - 10/27/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well people deep fry shrooms and crons straight pressure cooked them with no potency issues. Boiling water is like luke warm compared to it under pressure, and almost boiling oil lol.
Yeah definitely micro. Tho tossing in some vitamin c could help I heard its great at stopping oxidation. But I prefer vacuum sealing shit
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YaMoonSun
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: micro]
#22440203 - 10/27/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Implying that you poured the tea back into the machine and ran it through the mushrooms two additional times?
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: YaMoonSun]
#22440216 - 10/27/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would use clean water. Who not? It's water 
I'd definitely leave the crumbled mushroom solids in the filter and run water through it another 2x.
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Re: wouldn't making mushroom tea cause a loss of potency? [Re: micro]
#22440223 - 10/27/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree. There is very little if any potency loss. Possibly more is lost because it stays in the mushroom versus being dissolved out of the mushroom.
We used to make tea by boiling them for 20+ mins back when I didn't know better. Didn't noticed any loss after twenty mins.
The trip kicks in super fast, less stomach ache.
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