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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22444308 - 10/28/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What does the ethnic composition of the school have to do with it? I saw no connection in the link, or reference to that its a neverending battle on that school to control the students, or that its a free for all as is.

I do see the Sheriff saying hes concerned about the level of violence he saw.




"What does the ethnic composition of the school have to do with it?"

If you want me to spell it out, I will.

"In Richland Two, where 59 percent of the students are black and 26 percent are white, 77 percent of those suspended at least once in 2011-12 were black, according to figures compiled by the Justice Department"

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/28/us/spring-valley-high-school-sc-officer-arrest.html?_r=0

"The district suspended about 5,800 of its 26,000 students in 2011-12, but there were more than 10,000 suspensions.


Edited by qman (10/28/15 10:59 AM)


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: Gorlax] * 2
    #22444310 - 10/28/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well he got fired it was just released on the news so everyone can go home happy now that we have another unemployed person.




what's the world coming to when you can't manhandle a teenage girl without impunity?


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: millzy] * 1
    #22444431 - 10/28/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well he got fired it was just released on the news so everyone can go home happy now that we have another unemployed person.




what's the world coming to when you can't manhandle a teenage girl without impunity?




What's the world coming to when teenagers are allowed to defy authority without just cause.

What's the world coming to when a good man loses his job because according to the Sherriff he should have used 'Pain compliance' to remove her from the chair?

What's the world coming to when we put the animals in charge of the zoo?


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: Joe_C]
    #22444472 - 10/28/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well they fired the piece of shit. Let's see if he gets charged now or if he'll just go on to some other department for bigger and better things like shooting 12 year olds


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: koods]
    #22444522 - 10/28/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sheriff-says-third-video-shows-south-carolina-student-punching-officer-n452481

"In the third video viewed by police, it shows the girl hitting the officer in the head"

So punching an officer in the head is no big deal, unreal.


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: qman]
    #22444691 - 10/28/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

the officer caught a flailing fist to the head after grabbing a child around the neck and dumping them backwards. why dont you mention that? you are more up in arms about him catching a fist then her being thrown across the room at the end


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: qman]
    #22444695 - 10/28/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, she really clocked him. from what i'm seeing it looks like she was flailing after he picked her up off the fucking ground.


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: millzy] * 4
    #22444700 - 10/28/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You guys are fucking nuts. No wonder your county is in shambles. You don't know up from down.


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: millzy] * 2
    #22444714 - 10/28/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Is it wrong that I don't feel bad for her?

If you're asked by the teacher then by the administrator then by the police to cooperate and you refuse to do so

you can get your ass whooped for all I care.. I remember all these bratty ass kids thinking they're hotshots

We are way too soft on people these days... yeah we should give her a cookie for being a disrespectful cunt


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: larry.fisherman] * 3
    #22444724 - 10/28/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The school district hands out 10,000 suspensions per year, when I was in high school there was maybe 3-5 per year.

That place is a fucking chaotic zoo that basically babysits a bunch of students that don't want to even be there, sure blame it on a school officer. :facepalm: Guess what?  That school will still suck without that officer being there.


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: qman]
    #22444730 - 10/28/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Worse even - it will suck and no one will learn anything. What some people aren't getting is that decisions like having law enforcement on school property exists for a reason. Police aren't (inherently) tyrants. Even the more rural schools I went to had some police presence.. kids are dumb


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22444751 - 10/28/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This incident just makes me realize how happy I am for not getting my teaching cert since public education is shot. It needs fixing head to toe and none of that "no child left behind" bullshit that waters down standardized testing for the autistics so everyone passes and no one learns anything.


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22444757 - 10/28/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
Worse even - it will suck and no one will learn anything. What some people aren't getting is that decisions like having law enforcement on school property exists for a reason. Police aren't (inherently) tyrants. Even the more rural schools I went to had some police presence.. kids are dumb




It's pretty much why I took all pre-AP/AP courses in high school... if you went into a normal class, it was literally filled with people who just didn't want to be there period and would ruin your education. I actually really liked school and really liked learning about the world, especially all my biology and chemistry and computer classes.

I get that some people don't wanna be there. It doesn't mean you gotta act out and be a fuckwad.

I also wouldn't wanna be a public school teacher. It's gotta be pretty fucking hard to keep a straight face when dealing with shitty ass kids.


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: millzy] * 1
    #22444812 - 10/28/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
Well he got fired it was just released on the news so everyone can go home happy now that we have another unemployed person.




what's the world coming to when you can't manhandle a teenage girl without impunity?



What's the world coming to when you can't get a decent fucking education because some stupid little bitch is causing a disruption in the classroom?

I don't see how you people attacking the cop could see any other solution. Can't use force on a minor so just let the dumb girl continue to sit there? :rofl:

Some kid got shot by a cop for pulling away from the cop in his vehicle while the cop approached. Why the fuck is this stupid shit getting more attention?


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: Uzziel]
    #22444823 - 10/28/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

you guys seem to be blaming kids for the rise in suspensions and increased presence of law enforcement in public schools when the reality is that there is a monetary interest in having more cops in schools and involving courts in matters that formerly handled in-house. i'm not saying that having cops on school campuses is implicitly bad. but the degree to which those cops are involved in every day disciplinary action is troublesome, and it leads to scenarios like this, or worse. as i've said, being a kid is a crime now. that's unacceptable to me. we can do better than teaching our children at gunpoint.


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: millzy]
    #22444840 - 10/28/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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you guys seem to be blaming kids




Well it's the kids fault that they are insubordinate. It isn't the teachers fault, it isn't the adminstators fault and it's not the cops fault. Is it the parents fault? Nope.

Whose fault is it, millzy?

You can call a high school student a kid all you want, but they have enough intelligence by then to recognize authority.

Nobody forces you to comply. Just don't be surprised when your ass gets slammed to the ground.

If you're going to disrupt a classroom and make a scene, be prepared to face the consequences


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22444846 - 10/28/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
You guys are fucking nuts. No wonder your county is in shambles. You don't know up from down.





Its rudely put but yeah, discussions like these would be unthinkable in Holland. There seems to be almost an absence of consensus.


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: Asante]
    #22444858 - 10/28/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That isn't a good thing if consensus is the norm in discussions like this. If your opinion is wrong then there's no one to contest it.


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: Uzziel]
    #22444865 - 10/28/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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you guys seem to be blaming kids




Well it's the kids fault that they are insubordinate. It isn't the teachers fault, it isn't the adminstators fault and it's not the cops fault. Is it the parents fault? Nope.

Whose fault is it, millzy?

You can call a high school student a kid all you want, but they have enough intelligence by then to recognize authority.

Nobody forces you to comply. Just don't be surprised when your ass gets slammed to the ground.

If you're going to disrupt a classroom and make a scene, be prepared to face the consequences




that's lazy thinking in my view. you're looking at this incident in such narrow terms that you're not seeing the larger issue. kids, especially teenagers, are rebellious; it's how the grow and learn. i'm not saying that it's acceptable to act out in school. but some time ago, someone figured out how to monetize teenage rebellion. that's what we're looking at here, and it's a big problem.


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Re: Officer slams S.Carolina H.S. student (video) [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22444866 - 10/28/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There can be difference of opinion but discussion here, no matter how the wind blows people disagree. They almost disagree regardless of subject.


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