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invitro

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Whats your contam rate spawning to bulk?
#22438283 - 10/26/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd like to get a sense of what a normal failure rate for doing edibles commercially. What's considered acceptable or normal? (I assume most or all are inoculation agar->grain spawn->bulk right?)
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Gr0wer
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Re: Whats your contam rate spawning to bulk? [Re: invitro]
#22438309 - 10/26/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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With pasterurized straw and my pink oysters I've made about 600 lbs of straw with zero contams. This is also an aggresive fast growing strain and I spawn heavy when compared to commercial grows. And yes that's how I do it agar to grain then bulk. I think if your getting any more than 10% contam you need to review your procedure.
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invitro

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Re: Whats your contam rate spawning to bulk? [Re: Gr0wer]
#22438357 - 10/26/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice, how much more spawn are you using? Aloha says a typical spawn rate is 2-10% for reds, I'd like to know how much of an increase in yield you get with a higher spawn rate.
Also Everythingmushrooms.com says the reds don't have that great a flavor, how do you like them personally, how do they compare to some of the other edibles?
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Re: Whats your contam rate spawning to bulk? [Re: invitro]
#22439231 - 10/27/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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invitro said:
Also Everythingmushrooms.com says the reds don't have that great a flavor, how do you like them personally, how do they compare to some of the other edibles?

I don't think that the pinks taste as good as the blue, king, or lion's mane, but I grow them in the hot months because they tolerate the heat. I may try golden oysters next summer. Hopefully they are as easy to grow, and more tender.
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Re: Whats your contam rate spawning to bulk? [Re: Jim Morrison]
#22439288 - 10/27/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agreed. Pinks have a more pungent and bitter aroma raw. Cooked they are a bit tougher than blues. My grow room is not air conditioned so it gets to the 80s often in the summer and pinks do well in that range. They are also super fast to grow. I spawn 1qt per 15 lb bag and I'm pinning by day 7 and harvesting on day 11-13
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Re: Whats your contam rate spawning to bulk? [Re: Gr0wer]
#22439333 - 10/27/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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5% before first flush, 20% by third is our standard, though I think solarity would probably find that way too high
I should also note that we fruit them anyways unless the contam is large and/or aggressive.
Edited by moonlightmushrooms (10/27/15 11:04 AM)
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Less than 1%. I get maybe a few random ones here and there plus a bad batch every month or so due to partial sterilizing or dirty spawn.
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invitro

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Re: Whats your contam rate spawning to bulk? [Re: Jim Morrison]
#22439957 - 10/27/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I appreciate you guys sharing this info Quote:
Jim Morrison said:
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invitro said:
Also Everythingmushrooms.com says the reds don't have that great a flavor, how do you like them personally, how do they compare to some of the other edibles?

I don't think that the pinks taste as good as the blue, king, or lion's mane, but I grow them in the hot months because they tolerate the heat. I may try golden oysters next summer. Hopefully they are as easy to grow, and more tender.
All I can tell you about golden oysters is don't boil them for 10 minutes, I did that with my first and only small batch, they were horrible, I didn't even want to eat them and I'm not that finicky. I've got a new batch on the way tho.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Edited by invitro (10/27/15 12:06 PM)
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Re: Whats your contam rate spawning to bulk? [Re: invitro]
#22440274 - 10/27/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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invitro said: I appreciate you guys sharing this info Quote:
Jim Morrison said:
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invitro said:
Also Everythingmushrooms.com says the reds don't have that great a flavor, how do you like them personally, how do they compare to some of the other edibles?

I don't think that the pinks taste as good as the blue, king, or lion's mane, but I grow them in the hot months because they tolerate the heat. I may try golden oysters next summer. Hopefully they are as easy to grow, and more tender.
All I can tell you about golden oysters is don't boil them for 10 minutes, I did that with my first and only small batch, they were horrible, I didn't even want to eat them and I'm not that finicky. I've got a new batch on the way tho.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Why on earth would you boil them? Unless maybe some type of soup? Most of the time I like to sauté mine in butter with a little garlic salt and pepper. I did find a good recipe for fried kings that I would like to try if they ever grow.
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Re: Whats your contam rate spawning to bulk? [Re: Jim Morrison]
#22442144 - 10/27/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I loose a very small percent when spawning to bulk. Just a few out of 100 I'd say.
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Re: Whats your contam rate spawning to bulk? [Re: drake89]
#22442731 - 10/27/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Generally none, once you have things dialed in.
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