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OfflineRaizekas
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Can't trip on Salvia. Any suggestions?
    #22437653 - 10/26/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hey, so I recently moved to UK and found out that Salvia divinorum is completely legal here, so decided to try out. (from psychedelics, I only had some shroom trips, but have used some other drugs (yes, I've read a bunch of "salvia is not like any other drug", so no need to repeat this one to me)) Bought 0.33g of 20x, a pipe and even got a torch lighter and prepared for the blast off. My first mistake was, that I "treated" it as weed, and as strange it may sound, I always mix weed with tobacco, therefore I mixed some (like 0.05g I'd guess, maybe even less) of the Salvia with tobacco and tried to smoke it. Smoked all the mixture. Nothing happened. Well then I've assumed tobacco is no good (I actually don't really like tobacco and the taste was hideous) and tried to smoke Salvia alone (packed like 0.05-0.1g) smoked few bowls, nothing happened. Now I was really confused, since after watching some of the "crazy salvia trips" on youtube, people would get crazy after few hits. I was not expecting to get crazy and shit, I got my room pretty dark, got one of my favorite dark progressive mixes playing on headphones (sometimes I meditate with music) and wanted to try and meditate and see some kind of either closed-eye or opened-eye visuals, however all I got was "a bit of dizyness", like the one you'd get from less than a half of a can of beer. This got me puzzled, so I've decided to check on the internet how to smoke it properly and stuff. So it said that you need to hold it in your lungs as long as you can and yeah... That is probably the biggest problem of mine. I'm non-smoker my self, however I've smoked weed for few years, but now I'm on a 1month tolerance break (and still counting) so it's kinda hard for me to smoke something and holding in the lungs... Well I don't know, I might look like a sissy, but after I took the "as big as I can" hit from the pipe, I could only hold it for 5-10s max, unless I'd breathe in some additional air while holding it, then I could for 20-30s. So I've tried: holding it for as long as I can (somewhere ~5s), then I've tried taking the hit and inhaling some additional oxygen and holding it for ~20s, smoked a couple of bowls (smoked all the remaining of mine 0.33g) and... nothing happened. Well I was a "bit dizzy", but that dizyness was no more than from a can of beer. Any suggestions? Should I get a bong? Any suggestions for holding breathe longer? Can I breathe in additional oxygen while holding it? Maybe the Salvia was lame? I bought it from hedzup shop in Birmingham, so, I'm gonna try it once again and maybe anyone could suggest me any good UK shops? (Well, I hope this ain't against forum rules, since anyways, it's legal in UK, so it'd be somewhat the same as asking where can I buy some good beer in UK, I guess?)


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Re: Can't trip on Salvia. Any suggestions? [Re: Raizekas]
    #22437706 - 10/26/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

20x salvia should flip your lid. I am not too sure of weight to smoke. Figure few puffs would do it. Try not mix with tobacco, if you be non.smoker. Could always go back to where got and share of disappointment. Good business will aid correct.


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Re: Can't trip on Salvia. Any suggestions? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #22437730 - 10/26/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, so I've only mixed the first 0.05 or something like that with tobacco. After that, I've only smoked Salvia alone, maybe I should mention that like in the middle of this smoking, my torch lighter ran out of gas, so I used a normal lighter, however, I read that for some people simple lighter is more than enough, you just need to hold it during the whole process - and that's what I did, I hold the flame the entire inhaling process.

Edit: About going back, it's not that easy, since it's not near my town (I've bought it while travelling), so the best I could do is only write to them.


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Re: Can't trip on Salvia. Any suggestions? [Re: Raizekas]
    #22437753 - 10/26/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Are you breathing out a normal puff of smoke?

Salvia extracts are potent to smoke.  I don't know what to say.

I would return to head shop and explain details.

The last 10x gotten, spun me real good on one puff, full lung deep bellow beathe.


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Re: Can't trip on Salvia. Any suggestions? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #22437792 - 10/26/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not as big as weed puffs, but kind of normal puffs (way bigger than from cigarettes). Returning is not an option, so I guess only way for trying it out would be ordering a new pack of Salvia and try it again? Shall I stick with the pipe/normal lighter or try to get a bong and maybe refill my torch lighter?


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Re: Can't trip on Salvia. Any suggestions? [Re: Raizekas]
    #22437803 - 10/26/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

you don't puff on salvia you sit down indian style and hold it in for 30-40 seconds twice


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Re: Can't trip on Salvia. Any suggestions? [Re: Konyap]
    #22438411 - 10/27/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Konyap said:
you don't puff on salvia you sit down indian style and hold it in for 30-40 seconds twice




What he said.

You could puff it, just many puffs to take.


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Re: Can't trip on Salvia. Any suggestions? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #22441465 - 10/27/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'll guess I'll have to try doing this again, maybe will get a bong, so the smoke ain't that harsh and maybe I'll be able to hold it for more. Thanks for the help, however one question remains unanswered: after I inhale some of the salvia smoke, can I inhale additional oxygen, so I could hold my breathe longer?


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Re: Can't trip on Salvia. Any suggestions? [Re: Raizekas]
    #22441920 - 10/27/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

ive had success with a regular pipe and lighter. my advice would to be get it all in as fast as possible one HUGE hit if you can. and like you already know hold it in for as long as possible. but yeah the faster you get everything in the better in my experience


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Re: Can't trip on Salvia. Any suggestions? [Re: Telekineticone]
    #22442650 - 10/27/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

its' so harsh
to breakthorugh you need extract but i hope they don't sell that in stores where you live


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