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Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico
    #22436561 - 10/26/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

http://imgur.com/a/ZCoFl

I got these from a professional who picked them in the mountains of mexico where these are legal and acceptable. I'd be interested in knowing the speices, but I'm more interested in knowing why they're black.

I've read that there are three reasons they could be black: rotting, frost exposure, spores. These were probably picked towards the end of the rainy / mushroom reason, but I don't know how they were stored, or for how long they were stored before I got them.

They don't smell rotten, but some of them fell apart easily as I was taking them out of their leaves/paper bag and putting them on the plate.

Thanks for any help!


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: mountainllamas]
    #22436571 - 10/26/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think they're black because they grew on the same day Satchel Paige was born


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: mountainllamas]
    #22436581 - 10/26/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They're too dried to id properly, next time don't buy them go up in the mountains and find em yourself


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: antity]
    #22436592 - 10/26/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They seemed pretty wet. I don't think they were dried when I took the picture, but I'm not sure. After I took the picture, I put the in front of a fan for 2 days, and they lost a lot of their size.

Are they safe to eat when they're black?


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: mountainllamas]
    #22436598 - 10/26/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They are if you know what kind of mushrooms they are, which you don't. Throw those nasty fuckers away


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: mountainllamas]
    #22436599 - 10/26/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't doubt that there active, but personally I wouldn't eat them cuz they look so nasty


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: mountainllamas]
    #22436615 - 10/26/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The caps look like they've been sporulating and aged, and the stems look covered in spores, dirty, and somewhat dark. If you find a paler portion of your mushrooms, bruise them and see if they turn blue at all.

They look like they could be P. caerulescens but on the other hand, they could be mis-ID'd or moldy, there's really no way to tell from this pic when they're this old and not stored well.


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: kerelsk]
    #22436623 - 10/26/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think I see some blue bruising on the stems, but it's not worth risking IMO, there's no telling how rotten they are


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: doctorghosty]
    #22437249 - 10/26/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for posts so far. I know they look bad. The reason I've been considering eating them is that they are from a shaman type guy in the mountains who is well known and he's been good before. I wish I knew more about when they were picked and how they were stored. Wouldn't they smell really bad if they were decomposing?

For those of you interested in where they came from, you might enjoy reading this http://www.lunaguava.com/mushrooms-and-mist-in-san-jose-del-pacifico/ ; about a pretty cool town in Mexico that's associated with Maria Sabina.

The second picture in that article shows a mushroom that looks like its on its way to looking a lot like the ones I bought, which makes me think that's just how mushrooms tend to look there when they're wild. Here is a link directly to the picture I'm talking about, http://www.lunaguava.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/800x600xA-journey-within-a-leaf.jpg.pagespeed.ic.3wvkPthF-L.jpg

Thanks!

BTW Was going to microdose with these in tea , another reason I'm considering it.


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: mountainllamas]
    #22437335 - 10/26/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

IME: when rotten, mushrooms take on the smell of a dead fish that has been aging under the benches that sit in front of the rows of lockers in a middle school boy's locker room at the end of a semester...only worse, because they're something one plans on ingesting.

good luck


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: relic]
    #22438548 - 10/27/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

this post mentioned wild mushrooms in Mexico that turn black a day after picking. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7557084/fpart/all/filter/i/vc/1

this looks similar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_zapotecorum#/media/File:Psilocybe.zapotecorum.jalisco.JPG

is it just that people here are not familiar with Psilocybe_zapotecorum or mushrooms in Mexico?


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Re: Black wild mushrooms from mountains in Mexico [Re: mountainllamas]
    #22440704 - 10/27/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It is almost certainly Psilocybe zapotecorum.    San Jose del Pacifico is very high in elevation, around 3000 meters.  It is too high for any Psilocybe except for Psilocybe muliercula - I found that in a derrumbe just outside of town.  The Psilocybe zapotecorum you have probably came from San Mateo Rio Hondo.


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