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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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Laughing at your thoughts
    #22436194 - 10/26/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Any experienced meditators find that with increased detachment from ones cognitive process (i.e. the constant inner dialogue) that the absurdity of the thoughts that often occur becomes quite comical?

Feel like there's a comedy show going on in my head at times.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22436273 - 10/26/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't meditate much, but I laugh at myself all the time.  Some of the shit my brain comes up with is ridiculous.  So I laugh.  It seems to me that not taking oneself all that seriously is a major virtue.


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22436395 - 10/26/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Do you feel you have a good ability to remain detached from your thoughts DQ? I don't see this in many people I meet. People seem so attached to what their thoughts on their selves and their world currently are.

I can empathise. I was once too.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22436473 - 10/26/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Tangential joke:

Walking into the empty sanctuary of his synagogue, a rabbi was suddenly possessed by a wave of mystical rapture, and threw himself onto the ground before the Ark proclaiming, "Lord, I'm Nothing!"

Seeing the rabbi in such a state, the cantor felt profoundly moved by similar emotions. He too, threw himself down in front of the Ark, proclaiming, "Lord, I'm Nothing!"

Then, way in the back of the synagogue, the janitor threw himself to the ground, and he too shouted, "Lord, "I'm Nothing."
     
Whereupon, the rabbi turned to the cantor and whispered, "Look who thinks he's Nothing!"


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22436849 - 10/26/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
Any experienced meditators find that with increased detachment from ones cognitive process (i.e. the constant inner dialogue) that the absurdity of the thoughts that often occur becomes quite comical?

Feel like there's a comedy show going on in my head at times.




Definitely man, every neurotic, inauthentic thought becomes quite amusing when you witness it from a bird's eye view.  There's nothing you can do but forgive yourself and find some humor it.  I've known this since I was 18 and had myself convinced that I was dying on acid, the absurdity of it became quite clear with a hug from a friend and a quick shift of perception and feeling more alive and vibrant than ever.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #22436898 - 10/26/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I've known this since I was 18 and had myself convinced that I was dying on acid, the absurdity of it became quite clear with a hug from a friend and a quick shift of perception and feeling more alive and vibrant than ever.



Do you mean that you first experienced this whilst intoxicated?

I had my first experience of this recently after smoking some weed. I got a touch of paranoia (haven't had that from weed in decades, however it used to get me pretty badly at times) and viewing the thoughts from that 'bird's eye view' it was highly amusing just how absurd they can be.

Love your description though; 'neurotic, inauthentic' - hell yeah man, they are certainly that!! Amazing the sheer volume of them when you can watch!


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22437070 - 10/26/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:

Do you mean that you first experienced this whilst intoxicated?

I had my first experience of this recently after smoking some weed. I got a touch of paranoia (haven't had that from weed in decades, however it used to get me pretty badly at times) and viewing the thoughts from that 'bird's eye view' it was highly amusing just how absurd they can be.

Love your description though; 'neurotic, inauthentic' - hell yeah man, they are certainly that!! Amazing the sheer volume of them when you can watch!




Yah, I was very high on acid and thought I was having a heat stroke at a concert in the hot summer, not really eating or drinking enough... The thoughts I was having were ludicrous, but that bird's eye view came during a hug from a friend, it extricated me from the drama, I could witness my thoughts and laugh at the cosmic schmuck I am.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22437075 - 10/26/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
Do you feel you have a good ability to remain detached from your thoughts DQ? I don't see this in many people I meet. People seem so attached to what their thoughts on their selves and their world currently are.

I can empathise. I was once too.




Well I guess I am not that attached to my thoughts, although I am very interested in pursuing the truth.  So my ideas are important to me, but no, I do not think my thoughts govern me all that much.


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22440143 - 10/27/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yep definitely get this. The more you can observe, the more absurd the thoughts become. It often seems like a little child throwing a tantrum.


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Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity.
The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death.
Tomorrow, when resurrection comes,
The heart that is not in love will fail the test.

~ Rumi



The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: PocketLady]
    #22440338 - 10/27/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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PocketLady said:
It often seems like a little child throwing a tantrum.




I'd say that's an excellent analogy, PocketLady. :thumbup:


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22453348 - 10/30/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I just recently took some notes on my meditation practice, the contents of which relate very much to what you are saying. Meditation gives me the time and space to simply observe my mind in its natural habitat, chattering away, mixing and churning all of the experiences it has stored away into dozens upon dozens of original flavors. Mmmmm.

As you say, many people are very attached to their (involuntary) thoughts, to the point at which they believe that those thoughts are actually them! That the chatter in my mind does not originate from the "actual me" is one of the most important realizations I've had to date.

Have you ever seen Revolver (2005)? This movie really gets at that voice in your head.


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Devizome]
    #22453646 - 10/30/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #22454085 - 10/30/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes I do.
Heres what I wrote to the subject yesterday
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22449176


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Crawler]
    #22456078 - 10/30/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

On mushies one time while my friend slept. I had this funny concept fly by me. Dog cannon! Very amused I picked up the dog backwards held his tail up and pushed his ring gear up to my sleeping friends face waking em up wi
Hile making cannon noises...


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: aVe]
    #22467437 - 11/02/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm as detached from my thoughts as I need. Not enough to ruin emotions or sensory experiences but a decent amount from my thoughts. Had it since before any drugs but after a bad life experience. I guess it's a blessing and a curse because it's hard for me to accept even good thoughts as authentic.


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22468785 - 11/02/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You guys are cool. And yes, people not taking themselves too seriously is a MAJOR virtue in my opinion.

But remember,  this realization doesn't liberate you from the fact that our thoughts (even our new,detached, byrd's eye view ones) are still biological oprocesses and they're probably never coming out as 'neutral' as we'd like to imagine.


Edited by Kangaskhan (11/02/15 09:54 PM)


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Re: Laughing at your thoughts [Re: Kangaskhan]
    #22470537 - 11/03/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Kangaskhan said:
You guys are cool. And yes, people not taking themselves too seriously is a MAJOR virtue in my opinion.

But remember,  this realization doesn't liberate you from the fact that our thoughts (even our new,detached, byrd's eye view ones) are still biological oprocesses and they're probably never coming out as 'neutral' as we'd like to imagine.




Yes, for sure -- I think there is always going to be bias.  Especially when someone is evaluating something about himself.  There's bias there at all times, imo no matter what, colored by many different processes -- culture, language, genetics, memory, etc.


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