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Devalue wealthy Americnas currency
    #22435438 - 10/26/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How can we effectively devalue the 1%'ers money?


  As a society we should charge people according to their wealth. If we could only start to price gouge the wealthy.  Charge them $1,000.00 for a burger.

  Or simply deny them food altogether.  We should stop any service they desire.  Their money should be worthless to us.  We need to find value in something other than paper. We should be offended when someone offers us cash as opposed to something of actual value.    Bit coins were a good idea until the rich started accumulating them.

Maybe we should stop our consumption.  The problem is we are all domesticated.  We are the cattle, the slaves who "think" we are gaining wealth.  If only we could get that extra $5 an hour.  Or $100k a year. 

I respect dr's and peoe who perform essential duties but unfortunately it seems at this point we need to be in a position of wealth to "afford" time to attend school. 

What if we payed people in knowledge for actions?  Then we could all better ourselves help each other and create true wealth in healthy non gmo foods organic self sustaining living environments.  No need to rush around to pay rediculous percentage charges to people who already have more than they can use in 100 lifetimes.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #22435469 - 10/26/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why do you hate the wealthy exactly?


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22435487 - 10/26/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you hate the wealthy exactly?





Why are you so enamoured with them?


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter] * 2
    #22435490 - 10/26/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How can we effectively devalue the 1%'ers money?





By not using the paper money


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #22435491 - 10/26/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you hate the wealthy exactly?





Why are you so enamoured with them?




I never said I was enamoured with them.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal]
    #22435506 - 10/26/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you hate the wealthy exactly?





Why are you so enamoured with them?




I never said I was enamoured with them.





I don't hate anybody.  I just feel that the majority of domesticated humans would have a better life without slaving away day after day to really accomplish nothing.  America is in such a huge debt and a lot of us work so hard.  With only a fake number that says we need to work more for some invisible person entity whatever.  It just doesn't make sense.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal]
    #22435509 - 10/26/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why would you want to devalue the money anyway?

Go back 100 years and these guys used slaves through forced brutality.

Now we have some wealthy fucks but you can be poor and still get social security or benefits that pay for all your food and a home.

Times are good bro.  People buy oil, sell guns, some slave their ass off but not me and we fuck the world up but we can live good in the west on fuck all and the state sponsors it.  Historically things are better than ever.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter] * 1
    #22435522 - 10/26/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't hate anybody.  I just feel that the majority of domesticated humans would have a better life without slaving away day after day to really accomplish nothing.  America is in such a huge debt and a lot of us work so hard.  With only a fake number that says we need to work more for some invisible person entity whatever.  It just doesn't make sense.




It makes perfect sense.  Debt enslaves people.  The rich use usery to make the masses work then they can buy what they want.

Thats why I don't work.  I just take.  The whole things based on using people.  If you feel morally abliged to work yer ass off for the rest of yer life then gutted cuz I pick up my gov paycheck and don't give a fuck :ducklol: People are stupid and easily controlled by social ideals.


People act as if they on a moral high horse for working while buying shit and sponsoring the same corrupt system thats fucking up our planet and causing the distribution of wealth problems; then they look down on people like me that admit its all fucked up.  Well what am I meant to do?  If we lived in a honest society then I'd be ashamed to say I don't work but to sponsor this corruption and get money and destroy ourselves more is actually participating in this shit. 

I want to be out of it and self sufficient but "taxes" and "national debt" don't allow that.  I was born into a modern slave system.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: nice1returns]
    #22435569 - 10/26/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Obviously we are the idiots if one person has all this paper sitting in a stone hut and we are willing to lose sleep kill each other and be a slave just to hold even just for a minute that persons paper.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #22435580 - 10/26/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The vast majority of the public are stupid.  The have conditioning that began at birth, continued through school and they never question anything beyond it.  In fact it rules their lives and anyone talking outside of the conditioning is "crazy".

Its been happening for thousands of years throughout history.  Thats why I'm content with my gov paid food and home while others work and moan. Fuck them.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: nice1returns] * 1
    #22435610 - 10/26/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods] * 1
    #22435627 - 10/26/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah but the money buys the laws, thus the taxes hence the rich not being taxed.

Money itself IS corruption.

You cannot have a democracy in a system based on usery.

As soon as you pay politicians the systems fucked and thats what we have.  A corrupt system of bribery where the rich rule.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22435646 - 10/26/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22435771 - 10/26/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Let them leave :smilingpuppy: The tax rate was always much higher than it's been recently - only 'Republican god' Reagan dropped it from 70% to 20% for the highest earners. 'Trickle down' is complete and utter bullshit - and no corporations don't give me employment or feed my family :lol: People say we have jobs cause of rich people - perhaps true if you're interested in working minimum wage for your whole life... but money to middle class means more local/smaller businesses that often care far more for their employees, and ya'know treat them like people instead of wage slaves.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22435796 - 10/26/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




If they leave? Where are they going to go?

Stop with this trickle down bullshit. Rich people are going to invest whether they are taxed at 15% or 40%. You are honestly saying that someone would rather not make any money than pay a higher tax rate and still be rich?

The top 1% owns 35% of the wealth. Seems very appropriate they be paying a large portion of the taxes.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22435828 - 10/26/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




If they leave? Where are they going to go?

Stop with this trickle down bullshit. Rich people are going to invest whether they are taxed at 15% or 40%. You are honestly saying that someone would rather not make any money than pay a higher tax rate and still be rich?

The top 1% owns 35% of the wealth. Seems very appropriate they be paying a large portion of the taxes.




I said nothing about trickle down economics, nor did I say anything about them investing or them not wanting to get rich because of taxes.

I said that taxing them more makes you more more dependent on them to a point where if they decide to move out of the country, you will take a big hit.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal]
    #22435830 - 10/26/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




"The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US"

This isn't something anyone should be proud of, it's a disgrace that the wealth is concentrated to so very few people.

The strongest economic years in the US (1950-80's) the wealthy paid less in taxes because they didn't have as much to be taxed.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22435839 - 10/26/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.



While your idea for a 40% tax on capital gains AND earned income is just hilariously stupid, I do agree with this statement. The 1% paying less taxes than their secretaries in taxes just because most of their profit isn't counted as "earned income" is stupid.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22435848 - 10/26/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




If they leave? Where are they going to go?

Stop with this trickle down bullshit. Rich people are going to invest whether they are taxed at 15% or 40%. You are honestly saying that someone would rather not make any money than pay a higher tax rate and still be rich?

The top 1% owns 35% of the wealth. Seems very appropriate they be paying a large portion of the taxes.



They would go to anywhere with lower corporate tax rates. Duh?


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22435857 - 10/26/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




If they leave? Where are they going to go?

Stop with this trickle down bullshit. Rich people are going to invest whether they are taxed at 15% or 40%. You are honestly saying that someone would rather not make any money than pay a higher tax rate and still be rich?

The top 1% owns 35% of the wealth. Seems very appropriate they be paying a large portion of the taxes.




I said nothing about trickle down economics, nor did I say anything about them investing or them not wanting to get rich because of taxes.

I said that taxing them more makes you more more dependent on them to a point where if they decide to move out of the country, you will take a big hit.




"it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more"

That is trickle down economics


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    #22435861 - 10/26/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Webster, we aren't talking about corporate taxes.


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    #22435863 - 10/26/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




"The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US"

This isn't something anyone should be proud of, it's a disagree that the wealth is concentrated to so very few people.

The strongest economic years in the US (1950-80's) the wealthy paid less in taxes because they didn't have as much to be taxed.




At this point, I don't know how to stop inequality. You can't streghten the poor by weakening the rich.... Taxing them to poverty isn't cool either. France tried that. Now all the rich French guys live in Switzerland and France is still fucked.

All I want in the end is that the poor can manage to make enough money to keep up with the cost of living. Its logic to me. Social services buys social peace. Nobody wins when there are homeless people everywhere.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22435869 - 10/26/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster, we aren't talking about corporate taxes.



We're talking about taxes in general, so Koods, we are talking about corporate tax rates. :facepalm: The rich are only staying in America because despite the stupidly high corporate tax rates, they can still cheat the tax system by channeling their profits through other avenues than ones that qualify as "earned income" and retain most of their profits. Take away that cheat and they will finally head for the lower corporate tax rates in other countries.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22435872 - 10/26/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




If they leave? Where are they going to go?

Stop with this trickle down bullshit. Rich people are going to invest whether they are taxed at 15% or 40%. You are honestly saying that someone would rather not make any money than pay a higher tax rate and still be rich?

The top 1% owns 35% of the wealth. Seems very appropriate they be paying a large portion of the taxes.




I said nothing about trickle down economics, nor did I say anything about them investing or them not wanting to get rich because of taxes.

I said that taxing them more makes you more more dependent on them to a point where if they decide to move out of the country, you will take a big hit.




"it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more"

That is trickle down economics




I'm talking contribute more in taxes. If he makes a million and pays 400k in taxes its good. If next years you help him make 2 million, he'll pay 800k in taxes. YOU win, by him being richer.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal]
    #22435886 - 10/26/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Don't even bother arguing economics with Koods. He will petulantly label anything that is contrary to his own misguided opinions as "Reaganomics" and then smugly insult you.


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    #22435894 - 10/26/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster, we aren't talking about corporate taxes.



We're talking about taxes in general, so Koods, we are talking about corporate tax rates. :facepalm: The rich are only staying in America because despite the stupidly high corporate tax rates, they can still cheat the tax system by channeling their profits through other avenues than ones that qualify as "earned income" and retain most of their profits. Take away that cheat and they will finally head for the lower corporate tax rates in other countries.




I'm not talking about corporate taxes. I doubt Patlal is either. We are talking about people. Not entities.


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How can we effectively devalue the 1%'ers money?




Cut off their heads. It worked for the French. Unfortunatly the British never followed suit so we have to see their inbred freaks on Canadian coinage to this day. But you got to be careful because there's always guys like Napoleon who want to take power in the vacuum. A pesant rebellion is possible, but it really takes a lot of suffering to kick it off. For the french it started with starvation and food riots. What would it take to make the poor rise up here in America? And I think we'd see a far different outcome, probably homeland security shooting them dead in the streets and the middle class hiding in their homes with a gun.

I hate to break it to you but the social disparity isn't enough. As long as people can have full bellies there won't ever be an uprising of the poor.

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Don't even bother arguing economics with Koods. He will petulantly label anything that is contrary to his own misguided opinions as "Reaganomics" and then smugly insult you.




He makes good points. The Conservatives don't have the monopoly of economic knowledge. Liberals score solid points in some area. That's why one day I go far right and the next day I'm far left...


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We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




"The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US"

This isn't something anyone should be proud of, it's a disagree that the wealth is concentrated to so very few people.

The strongest economic years in the US (1950-80's) the wealthy paid less in taxes because they didn't have as much to be taxed.




At this point, I don't know how to stop inequality. You can't streghten the poor by weakening the rich.... Taxing them to poverty isn't cool either. France tried that. Now all the rich French guys live in Switzerland and France is still fucked.

All I want in the end is that the poor can manage to make enough money to keep up with the cost of living. Its logic to me. Social services buys social peace. Nobody wins when there are homeless people everywhere.




"I don't know how to stop inequality"

You create a tight labor market which destroys the high profit margins and gives a much larger distribution of wealth.

1. Fix the trade agreements or put up tariffs.

2. Boot out the illegals and their children.


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    #22435912 - 10/26/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Corporate taxes are too high. Income taxes are too low for higher incomes. Personal tax rates are at historically low levels in this country, there is plenty of room to raise them. The rich paid much higher tax rages when the US was growing at a much faster rate.


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Boot out the illegals. Lol.

QMAN's solution to a better economy is to shrink it.


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Well he's spot on whether people like him or not.  There's not one other politician that can even bring up those subject matters.


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Boot out the illegals. Lol.

QMAN's solution to a better economy is to shrink it.



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What about labor shortages and higher food costs gives you a hard on?


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Boot out the illegals. Lol.

QMAN's solution to a better economy is to shrink it.




Every American would prefer having a smaller GDP is it improved their standard of living, let me ask you, how has the working class been doing the last 7 years with a larger GDP?

Should we bring in 100 million people from Africa to increase of GDP?  Because following your delusional line of reasoning economic prosperity would be soaring. :huxleyfacepalm:


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How can we effectively devalue the 1%'ers money?




Cut off their heads. It worked for the French. Unfortunatly the British never followed suit so we have to see their inbred freaks on Canadian coinage to this day. But you got to be careful because there's always guys like Napoleon who want to take power in the vacuum. A pesant rebellion is possible, but it really takes a lot of suffering to kick it off. For the french it started with starvation and food riots. What would it take to make the poor rise up here in America? And I think we'd see a far different outcome, probably homeland security shooting them dead in the streets and the middle class hiding in their homes with a gun.

I hate to break it to you but the social disparity isn't enough. As long as people can have full bellies there won't ever be an uprising of the poor.

http://www.britannica.com/event/French-Revolution





Ha best reply yet!!  Just kill the fuckers.  Make them too afraid to spend their money.  The magazines devoted to the fuckers that everyone is so obsessed with would just become our hit lists.  They would no longer be flashing and flaunting how rich they are.  They would have to go into hiding.  We could still use the currency we have.  No need to devalue it amongst ourselves.  Dr's, nurses, and valued employees could still earn top dollar because they deserve it.  Someone who just wants to take the free money however will also be on the list.  Sorry ya lazy fuckers.  Unless you have a medical reason. 


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    #22435958 - 10/26/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster, we aren't talking about corporate taxes.



We're talking about taxes in general, so Koods, we are talking about corporate tax rates. :facepalm: The rich are only staying in America because despite the stupidly high corporate tax rates, they can still cheat the tax system by channeling their profits through other avenues than ones that qualify as "earned income" and retain most of their profits. Take away that cheat and they will finally head for the lower corporate tax rates in other countries.




I'm not talking about corporate taxes. I doubt Patlal is either. We are talking about people. Not entities.



And I'm talking about both, because both are related. At least you admit earned income taxes are too high. The tax bracket is just utterly dumb. The people that Obama tries to tax the heaviest don't even have that substantial of an earned income, they divert their money into other channels that are taxed at lower rates than what the average joe's income tax rate is. Obama's tax code is a failure. Vote Trump, he doesn't want to tax the poor whatsoever! Say goodbye to Obama's regime of poor-people-hatred and rich-people-loving. Say hello to a fair tax code.


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How can we effectively devalue the 1%'ers money?





By not using the paper money





Hi :smile:

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Its average is about 60.

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    #22435983 - 10/26/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What about labor shortages and higher food costs gives you a hard on?



Labor shortages are caused by an extravagant welfare system that at times is so screwed up that people would literally make LESS money if they were to become employed. Cut down the handouts, and there will never be such thing as a "labor shortage" ever again. Mandate that the food companies fire the illegals, hire american workers and take the profit loss from their own ridiculous salaries. Don't let Big Food jack up the prices to compensate, make them pay for it themselves. They've done America a disservice by hiring the illegals and employing them for so long, let them pay the price.

Koods, let me ask you, are you in favor of the current situation? The poor immigrants, that we all know only come to America to escape domestic turmoil in their home countries, are being exploited by Big Food. Big Food is making these refugees work in slave conditions for a slave labor. All the while the evil white CEO's are cashing in and laughing. Does that sounds good to you? Really?


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Webster, we aren't talking about corporate taxes.



We're talking about taxes in general, so Koods, we are talking about corporate tax rates. :facepalm: The rich are only staying in America because despite the stupidly high corporate tax rates, they can still cheat the tax system by channeling their profits through other avenues than ones that qualify as "earned income" and retain most of their profits. Take away that cheat and they will finally head for the lower corporate tax rates in other countries.




I'm not talking about corporate taxes. I doubt Patlal is either. We are talking about people. Not entities.



And I'm talking about both, because both are related. At least you admit earned income taxes are too high. The tax bracket is just utterly dumb. The people that Obama tries to tax the heaviest don't even have that substantial of an earned income, they divert their money into other channels that are taxed at lower rates than what the average joe's income tax rate is. Obama's tax code is a failure. Vote Trump, he doesn't want to tax the poor whatsoever! Say goodbye to Obama's regime of poor-people-hatred and rich-people-loving. Say hello to a fair tax code.




Trump sucks at business. He would have more money if he had invested his money in an index mutual fund.


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THe guy IS an index.


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Trump sucks at business. He would have more money if he had invested his money in an index mutual fund.



He started with millions. Now he has billions. If he had purchased an index fund he'd still have millions and also no cash flow. You may not like the guy but he's a legit tycoon. He's had his ups and downs but he's done pretty well.


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We're talking about taxes in general, so Koods, we are talking about corporate tax rates. :facepalm: The rich are only staying in America because despite the stupidly high corporate tax rates, they can still cheat the tax system by channeling their profits through other avenues than ones that qualify as "earned income" and retain most of their profits. Take away that cheat and they will finally head for the lower corporate tax rates in other countries.




I'm not talking about corporate taxes. I doubt Patlal is either. We are talking about people. Not entities.



And I'm talking about both, because both are related. At least you admit earned income taxes are too high. The tax bracket is just utterly dumb. The people that Obama tries to tax the heaviest don't even have that substantial of an earned income, they divert their money into other channels that are taxed at lower rates than what the average joe's income tax rate is. Obama's tax code is a failure. Vote Trump, he doesn't want to tax the poor whatsoever! Say goodbye to Obama's regime of poor-people-hatred and rich-people-loving. Say hello to a fair tax code.




Trump sucks at business. He would have more money if he had invested his money in an index mutual fund.



As would just about any American who invested in anything else. How is someone supposed to predict what the stock market will be like in 30 years? Where are your billions? How much do you suck?

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THe guy IS an index.



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    #22436024 - 10/26/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That only has no meaning to you because of your inability to make sense of it.

Hes far too big a player to invest into an index mutual fund. Players of his financial girth corner markets and pull stuff like that.


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:wonka:
Billionaires are too big to invest in stocks?
















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Corporate taxes are too high. Income taxes are too low for higher incomes. Personal tax rates are at historically low levels in this country, there is plenty of room to raise them. The rich paid much higher tax rages when the US was growing at a much faster rate.




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I'm not talking about corporate taxes. I doubt Patlal is either. We are talking about people. Not entities.



And I'm talking about both, because both are related. At least you admit earned income taxes are too high. The tax bracket is just utterly dumb. The people that Obama tries to tax the heaviest don't even have that substantial of an earned income, they divert their money into other channels that are taxed at lower rates than what the average joe's income tax rate is. Obama's tax code is a failure. Vote Trump, he doesn't want to tax the poor whatsoever! Say goodbye to Obama's regime of poor-people-hatred and rich-people-loving. Say hello to a fair tax code.




Trump sucks at business. He would have more money if he had invested his money in an index mutual fund.




That's the dumbest statement ever.

He should have been smart enough to take his crystal ball in the 60s and sit on his ass and producce nothing right?

Instead he decided to build shit and employ thousands.


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Corporate taxes are too high. Income taxes are too low for higher incomes. Personal tax rates are at historically low levels in this country, there is plenty of room to raise them. The rich paid much higher tax rages when the US was growing at a much faster rate.




I totally agree on corporate taxes. Insanely high.



Way too high. Also income taxes are irrelevant to the rich. I'll say it once again. The super rich barely even earn any money that could be counted as "earned income" compared to the amount of money they divert through other, lesser taxed channels.

Income taxes are meaningless to the rich! Cut them across the board and raise taxes in other areas that will actually include the huge sums that billionaires are raking in.


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That only has no meaning to you because of your inability to make sense of it.

Hes far too big a player to invest into an index mutual fund. Players of his financial girth corner markets and pull stuff like that.




:wonka:
Billionaires are too big to invest in stocks?



I'm flabbergasted.





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Trump sucks at business. He would have more money if he had invested his money in an index mutual fund.



He started with millions. Now he has billions. If he had purchased an index fund he'd still have millions and also no cash flow. You may not like the guy but he's a legit tycoon. He's had his ups and downs but he's done pretty well.




Yeah and he would be twice as rich if he invested in a mutual fund.

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Imagine Trump had retired in 1982, sold his real estate holdings and invested his $500 million in the S&P 500 — that is, 500 stocks representing the American stock market.

From 1982 through the end of 2014, the S&P 500 index had an annualized return, including reinvested dividends, of 11.86 percent, according to MoneyChimp’s S&P 500 Compound Annual Growth Rate calculator.

Per this calculator, every dollar invested in January 1982 would have been worth $40 by December of 2014. That means Trump’s initial $500 million would have grown to $20 billion. That’s twice what Trump says he’s worth today.




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I'm not talking about corporate taxes. I doubt Patlal is either. We are talking about people. Not entities.



And I'm talking about both, because both are related. At least you admit earned income taxes are too high. The tax bracket is just utterly dumb. The people that Obama tries to tax the heaviest don't even have that substantial of an earned income, they divert their money into other channels that are taxed at lower rates than what the average joe's income tax rate is. Obama's tax code is a failure. Vote Trump, he doesn't want to tax the poor whatsoever! Say goodbye to Obama's regime of poor-people-hatred and rich-people-loving. Say hello to a fair tax code.




Trump sucks at business. He would have more money if he had invested his money in an index mutual fund.




That's the dumbest statement ever.

He should have been smart enough to take his crystal ball in the 60s and sit on his ass and producce nothing right?

Instead he decided to build shit and employ thousands.




No, he should have invested in companies with people who know better how to run a business. Even more employees and created wealth :cookiemonster:


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Corporate taxes are too high. Income taxes are too low for higher incomes. Personal tax rates are at historically low levels in this country, there is plenty of room to raise them. The rich paid much higher tax rages when the US was growing at a much faster rate.




I totally agree on corporate taxes. Insanely high.



Way too high. Also income taxes are irrelevant to the rich. I'll say it once again. The super rich barely even earn any money that could be counted as "earned income" compared to the amount of money they divert through other, lesser taxed channels.

Income taxes are meaningless to the rich! Cut them across the board and raise taxes in other areas that will actually include the huge sums that billionaires are raking in.




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Oh just to throw in - we need to stop corporate subsidies :kingcrankey: they're pretty fucking outrageous... and something both liberals and conservatives should see common ground on.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22436156 - 10/26/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What about labor shortages and higher food costs gives you a hard on?




Labor shortages? Because we have 10's of millions working eligible US citizens NOT employed, give us a break with that nonsense.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: qman]
    #22436171 - 10/26/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/01/news/economy/corporate-tax-rate/

"US corporations pay average effective tax rate of 12.6%"


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: qman]
    #22436179 - 10/26/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

make apartment houses and insurance cheaper...
problem solved


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22436220 - 10/26/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Corporate taxes are too high. Income taxes are too low for higher incomes. Personal tax rates are at historically low levels in this country, there is plenty of room to raise them. The rich paid much higher tax rages when the US was growing at a much faster rate.




I totally agree on corporate taxes. Insanely high.



Way too high. Also income taxes are irrelevant to the rich. I'll say it once again. The super rich barely even earn any money that could be counted as "earned income" compared to the amount of money they divert through other, lesser taxed channels.

Income taxes are meaningless to the rich! Cut them across the board and raise taxes in other areas that will actually include the huge sums that billionaires are raking in.




You know that realized capital gains are income right?



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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Webster10]
    #22436223 - 10/26/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What about labor shortages and higher food costs gives you a hard on?



Labor shortages are caused by an extravagant welfare system that at times is so screwed up that people would literally make LESS money if they were to become employed. Cut down the handouts, and there will never be such thing as a "labor shortage" ever again. Mandate that the food companies fire the illegals, hire american workers and take the profit loss from their own ridiculous salaries. Don't let Big Food jack up the prices to compensate, make them pay for it themselves. They've done America a disservice by hiring the illegals and employing them for so long, let them pay the price.

Koods, let me ask you, are you in favor of the current situation? The poor immigrants, that we all know only come to America to escape domestic turmoil in their home countries, are being exploited by Big Food. Big Food is making these refugees work in slave conditions for a slave labor. All the while the evil white CEO's are cashing in and laughing. Does that sounds good to you? Really?




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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Webster10]
    #22436234 - 10/26/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

my family should be able to run dynasty's and eventually run for office, and i can't prep them for that if i can't own most of everything they're gonna be running for.  :wowz:


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods] * 1
    #22436341 - 10/26/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm: Do you actually believe half the shit you type?


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter] * 2
    #22436501 - 10/26/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How can we effectively devalue the 1%'ers money?


  As a society we should charge people according to their wealth. If we could only start to price gouge the wealthy.  Charge them $1,000.00 for a burger.

  Or simply deny them food altogether.  We should stop any service they desire.  Their money should be worthless to us.  We need to find value in something other than paper. We should be offended when someone offers us cash as opposed to something of actual value.    Bit coins were a good idea until the rich started accumulating them.

Maybe we should stop our consumption.  The problem is we are all domesticated.  We are the cattle, the slaves who "think" we are gaining wealth.  If only we could get that extra $5 an hour.  Or $100k a year. 

I respect dr's and peoe who perform essential duties but unfortunately it seems at this point we need to be in a position of wealth to "afford" time to attend school. 

What if we payed people in knowledge for actions?  Then we could all better ourselves help each other and create true wealth in healthy non gmo foods organic self sustaining living environments.  No need to rush around to pay rediculous percentage charges to people who already have more than they can use in 100 lifetimes.




1. Stop bitching

2. Stop being jealous

3. Clean the sand out of your vagina

4. Make more money to raise yourself instead of bringing others down, you crybaby


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: myc_check1212]
    #22436545 - 10/26/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Make more money:cookiemonster:

Simple as that, wonder why that escaped my mind..


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Amanita86]
    #22436555 - 10/26/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Make more money:cookiemonster:

Simple as that, wonder why that escaped my mind..




Work your way up :cookiemonster:

Why should the rest of us suffer because you're  content being an underachiever.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Webster10]
    #22436558 - 10/26/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What about labor shortages and higher food costs gives you a hard on?



Labor shortages are caused by an extravagant welfare system that at times is so screwed up that people would literally make LESS money if they were to become employed. Cut down the handouts, and there will never be such thing as a "labor shortage" ever again. Mandate that the food companies fire the illegals, hire american workers and take the profit loss from their own ridiculous salaries. Don't let Big Food jack up the prices to compensate, make them pay for it themselves. They've done America a disservice by hiring the illegals and employing them for so long, let them pay the price.

Koods, let me ask you, are you in favor of the current situation? The poor immigrants, that we all know only come to America to escape domestic turmoil in their home countries, are being exploited by Big Food. Big Food is making these refugees work in slave conditions for a slave labor. All the while the evil white CEO's are cashing in and laughing. Does that sounds good to you? Really?







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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22436666 - 10/26/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
What about labor shortages and higher food costs gives you a hard on?



Labor shortages are caused by an extravagant welfare system that at times is so screwed up that people would literally make LESS money if they were to become employed. Cut down the handouts, and there will never be such thing as a "labor shortage" ever again. Mandate that the food companies fire the illegals, hire american workers and take the profit loss from their own ridiculous salaries. Don't let Big Food jack up the prices to compensate, make them pay for it themselves. They've done America a disservice by hiring the illegals and employing them for so long, let them pay the price.

Koods, let me ask you, are you in favor of the current situation? The poor immigrants, that we all know only come to America to escape domestic turmoil in their home countries, are being exploited by Big Food. Big Food is making these refugees work in slave conditions for a slave labor. All the while the evil white CEO's are cashing in and laughing. Does that sounds good to you? Really?







I refuse to respond because I have no answer. I preach being "the party of the people" but feel okay about shitting on immigrants.




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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: myc_check1212]
    #22436674 - 10/26/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Make more money:cookiemonster:

Simple as that, wonder why that escaped my mind..




Work your way up :cookiemonster:

Why should the rest of us suffer because you're  content being an underachiever.



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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Amanita86]
    #22436825 - 10/26/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes! It does not matter that all our 'wealth' is arbitrarily created by a private banking company that gets to decide how much to give to themselves and that the playing field of business is incredibly tilted now-a-days due to insanely huge conglomerates ability to outsource and produce items at 1/100th the cost of someone starting out.

You weren't born on the worst losing team at least! So shut up! Make more money!! Ignore the people making fuck tons more than you tilting the entire economic system to their advantage for doing nothing but typing in figures and lending out your hard earned paper!


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: twighead]
    #22436979 - 10/26/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Money is a means to an end. A way to control, certainly, yet very necessary.

If it wasn't "money", it would be some other form of currency/trade.

There will always be those in power, because that is the way COMPLEX systems work.

Much like the nervous system dictates almost 90 percent of the rest of the human body, so do the rich dictate the rest of us.

Good luck being a uniform blob.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: MoxyOx]
    #22437053 - 10/26/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, but the caveat is - they will attempt to increase their power indefinitely - and when it keeps accelerating in their favor we have to step in for their good and ours...


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: myc_check1212]
    #22437590 - 10/26/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Hunter hunter said:
How can we effectively devalue the 1%'ers money?


  As a society we should charge people according to their wealth. If we could only start to price gouge the wealthy.  Charge them $1,000.00 for a burger.

  Or simply deny them food altogether.  We should stop any service they desire.  Their money should be worthless to us.  We need to find value in something other than paper. We should be offended when someone offers us cash as opposed to something of actual value.    Bit coins were a good idea until the rich started accumulating them.




Maybe we should stop our consumption.  The problem is we are all domesticated.  We are the cattle, the slaves who "think" we are gaining wealth.  If only we could get that extra $5 an hour.  Or $100k a year. 

I respect dr's and peoe who perform essential duties but unfortunately it seems at this point we need to be in a position of wealth to "afford" time to attend school. 

What if we payed people in knowledge for actions?  Then we could all better ourselves help each other and create true wealth in healthy non gmo foods organic self sustaining living environments.  No need to rush around to pay rediculous percentage charges to people who already have more than they can use in 100 lifetimes.




1. Stop bitching

2. Stop being jealous

3. Clean the sand out of your vagina

4. Make more money to raise yourself instead of bringing others down, you crybaby






Haha I had a feeling a pansy ass silver spoon up their ass little bitch was gonna get butt hurt.  I'm not sorry, also I wasnt bitching.  Ive been very blessed.  However we live in a country where we have people unable to pay for dinner every night who work hard, as lazy fuckers get fat off the system. 

Take a deep breath and go buy something jack ass.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #22437639 - 10/26/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's what Im saying, the shit is off balance.  There's enough food that gets thrown away at the end of the night in various companies to feed a country..night, after night, after night..

But that's not how it goes, everyone wants so far up the ladder they dont have to do shit..

Its all fucked up, and the balance is off.. white bred capitalism is horseshit...it is a pure devil wickid system..

Its geared for the man on top.  Everyone under that man runs to death and it's never enough.  "How much can I consume, while doing nothing"?

Put all the burden on someone else, anyone else.. and then eat..


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter] * 1
    #22437657 - 10/26/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Simply buying all the gold and silver back

The paper dollar is worthless unless used to buy guns, ammo, gold, silver, etc


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Amanita86]
    #22437692 - 10/26/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yea I was looking at all these trades that require bending and kneeling and all that for like 15bucks an hour lol
fuck that go to another state and make that working at miccyD's


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