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Devalue wealthy Americnas currency
    #22435438 - 10/26/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How can we effectively devalue the 1%'ers money?


  As a society we should charge people according to their wealth. If we could only start to price gouge the wealthy.  Charge them $1,000.00 for a burger.

  Or simply deny them food altogether.  We should stop any service they desire.  Their money should be worthless to us.  We need to find value in something other than paper. We should be offended when someone offers us cash as opposed to something of actual value.    Bit coins were a good idea until the rich started accumulating them.

Maybe we should stop our consumption.  The problem is we are all domesticated.  We are the cattle, the slaves who "think" we are gaining wealth.  If only we could get that extra $5 an hour.  Or $100k a year. 

I respect dr's and peoe who perform essential duties but unfortunately it seems at this point we need to be in a position of wealth to "afford" time to attend school. 

What if we payed people in knowledge for actions?  Then we could all better ourselves help each other and create true wealth in healthy non gmo foods organic self sustaining living environments.  No need to rush around to pay rediculous percentage charges to people who already have more than they can use in 100 lifetimes.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #22435469 - 10/26/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why do you hate the wealthy exactly?


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22435487 - 10/26/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you hate the wealthy exactly?





Why are you so enamoured with them?


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter] * 2
    #22435490 - 10/26/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How can we effectively devalue the 1%'ers money?





By not using the paper money


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #22435491 - 10/26/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you hate the wealthy exactly?





Why are you so enamoured with them?




I never said I was enamoured with them.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal]
    #22435506 - 10/26/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you hate the wealthy exactly?





Why are you so enamoured with them?




I never said I was enamoured with them.





I don't hate anybody.  I just feel that the majority of domesticated humans would have a better life without slaving away day after day to really accomplish nothing.  America is in such a huge debt and a lot of us work so hard.  With only a fake number that says we need to work more for some invisible person entity whatever.  It just doesn't make sense.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal]
    #22435509 - 10/26/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why would you want to devalue the money anyway?

Go back 100 years and these guys used slaves through forced brutality.

Now we have some wealthy fucks but you can be poor and still get social security or benefits that pay for all your food and a home.

Times are good bro.  People buy oil, sell guns, some slave their ass off but not me and we fuck the world up but we can live good in the west on fuck all and the state sponsors it.  Historically things are better than ever.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter] * 1
    #22435522 - 10/26/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't hate anybody.  I just feel that the majority of domesticated humans would have a better life without slaving away day after day to really accomplish nothing.  America is in such a huge debt and a lot of us work so hard.  With only a fake number that says we need to work more for some invisible person entity whatever.  It just doesn't make sense.




It makes perfect sense.  Debt enslaves people.  The rich use usery to make the masses work then they can buy what they want.

Thats why I don't work.  I just take.  The whole things based on using people.  If you feel morally abliged to work yer ass off for the rest of yer life then gutted cuz I pick up my gov paycheck and don't give a fuck :ducklol: People are stupid and easily controlled by social ideals.


People act as if they on a moral high horse for working while buying shit and sponsoring the same corrupt system thats fucking up our planet and causing the distribution of wealth problems; then they look down on people like me that admit its all fucked up.  Well what am I meant to do?  If we lived in a honest society then I'd be ashamed to say I don't work but to sponsor this corruption and get money and destroy ourselves more is actually participating in this shit. 

I want to be out of it and self sufficient but "taxes" and "national debt" don't allow that.  I was born into a modern slave system.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: nice1returns]
    #22435569 - 10/26/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Obviously we are the idiots if one person has all this paper sitting in a stone hut and we are willing to lose sleep kill each other and be a slave just to hold even just for a minute that persons paper.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Hunter hunter]
    #22435580 - 10/26/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The vast majority of the public are stupid.  The have conditioning that began at birth, continued through school and they never question anything beyond it.  In fact it rules their lives and anyone talking outside of the conditioning is "crazy".

Its been happening for thousands of years throughout history.  Thats why I'm content with my gov paid food and home while others work and moan. Fuck them.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: nice1returns] * 1
    #22435610 - 10/26/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods] * 1
    #22435627 - 10/26/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah but the money buys the laws, thus the taxes hence the rich not being taxed.

Money itself IS corruption.

You cannot have a democracy in a system based on usery.

As soon as you pay politicians the systems fucked and thats what we have.  A corrupt system of bribery where the rich rule.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22435646 - 10/26/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22435771 - 10/26/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Let them leave :smilingpuppy: The tax rate was always much higher than it's been recently - only 'Republican god' Reagan dropped it from 70% to 20% for the highest earners. 'Trickle down' is complete and utter bullshit - and no corporations don't give me employment or feed my family :lol: People say we have jobs cause of rich people - perhaps true if you're interested in working minimum wage for your whole life... but money to middle class means more local/smaller businesses that often care far more for their employees, and ya'know treat them like people instead of wage slaves.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22435796 - 10/26/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




If they leave? Where are they going to go?

Stop with this trickle down bullshit. Rich people are going to invest whether they are taxed at 15% or 40%. You are honestly saying that someone would rather not make any money than pay a higher tax rate and still be rich?

The top 1% owns 35% of the wealth. Seems very appropriate they be paying a large portion of the taxes.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22435828 - 10/26/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
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Patlal said:
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koods said:
We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




If they leave? Where are they going to go?

Stop with this trickle down bullshit. Rich people are going to invest whether they are taxed at 15% or 40%. You are honestly saying that someone would rather not make any money than pay a higher tax rate and still be rich?

The top 1% owns 35% of the wealth. Seems very appropriate they be paying a large portion of the taxes.




I said nothing about trickle down economics, nor did I say anything about them investing or them not wanting to get rich because of taxes.

I said that taxing them more makes you more more dependent on them to a point where if they decide to move out of the country, you will take a big hit.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: Patlal]
    #22435830 - 10/26/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




"The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US"

This isn't something anyone should be proud of, it's a disgrace that the wealth is concentrated to so very few people.

The strongest economic years in the US (1950-80's) the wealthy paid less in taxes because they didn't have as much to be taxed.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22435839 - 10/26/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.



While your idea for a 40% tax on capital gains AND earned income is just hilariously stupid, I do agree with this statement. The 1% paying less taxes than their secretaries in taxes just because most of their profit isn't counted as "earned income" is stupid.


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Re: Devalue wealthy Americnas currency [Re: koods]
    #22435848 - 10/26/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




If they leave? Where are they going to go?

Stop with this trickle down bullshit. Rich people are going to invest whether they are taxed at 15% or 40%. You are honestly saying that someone would rather not make any money than pay a higher tax rate and still be rich?

The top 1% owns 35% of the wealth. Seems very appropriate they be paying a large portion of the taxes.



They would go to anywhere with lower corporate tax rates. Duh?


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    #22435857 - 10/26/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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koods said:
We don't need to devalue their money. We just need to tax their income. All their income. Nothing wrong with a tax rate of 40% for both earned income and capital gains. You think rich people will decide to not be rich anymore just to avoid a higher tax rate? The US became an economic superpower when tax rates were far higher than 40%. Now we have a situation were people that go to work everyday pay higher taxes on that money than someone who earns their income by investing and letting their money do all the work for them. Income should all be treated the same no matter where it comes from.




Rich people own the corporations that give you employment and therefore feed your family
Rich people own the politicians

Now you want to make the public budget increasingly more dependent on them? That means if they leave, you have to cut services... In that kind of tax the rich model, it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more. The top 1% pays 45% of all taxes in the US... Treat them like the kings you are making them to be

Why don't you kneel and surrender your soul to them. It's heading that way, skips the steps and just do it already




If they leave? Where are they going to go?

Stop with this trickle down bullshit. Rich people are going to invest whether they are taxed at 15% or 40%. You are honestly saying that someone would rather not make any money than pay a higher tax rate and still be rich?

The top 1% owns 35% of the wealth. Seems very appropriate they be paying a large portion of the taxes.




I said nothing about trickle down economics, nor did I say anything about them investing or them not wanting to get rich because of taxes.

I said that taxing them more makes you more more dependent on them to a point where if they decide to move out of the country, you will take a big hit.




"it is within societies interest to make sure that the guy who makes a million this year makes 2 million next year so he'll contribute more"

That is trickle down economics


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