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Re: The Worst News Ever [Re: Asante]
#22447403 - 10/29/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Moonshoe, with all due respect, I think you are overestimating the severity and urgency of this situation. A large shift in the natural balance like this may take many years to fully roll out. I strongly doubt that this particular situation will cause global catastrophy on short notice. We might not even see the bad part of it in our lifetime.
I'm a prepper too, its OK to do drills, but as I see it, this is a drill, not the main event - the main event might be decades still in the coming.
Yeah, I've felt like I have been on the verge of a panic attack, off and on, for the last day and a half. I probably shouldn't have even opened this thread.
Even the shroomery is bumming me the fuck out, tonight.

I do appreciate your perspective, though...
Cause I know where moonshoe is coming from with this stuff, and it sucks. I've been like that, at various periods in my life. Times where I worried about catastrophe and apocalypse too much, and wars, and the economy, and just about whatever else could go wrong. Up to and including government conspiracies and prison camps,and whatever. But while I still find some of that stuff interesting (and who knows-- maybe it's all true, or some of it, or none of it), a point came where I had to decide that I didn't want to stress myself out actually worrying anymore about stupid shit that I couldn't, in most cases, control in any meaningful way.
But unfortunately sometimes I can still be a little vulnerable to stuff like this. Anxiety's a bitch.
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Re: The Worst News Ever [Re: Harbard]
#22448543 - 10/29/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Once more, its being held down economically
And on top of that, it is held back by tribal conflicts and superstition just like it was back when the white kids first invaded the place. If you think that Africa will suddenly be organized and prosperous as a whole once the white men clear out, you're seriously delusional. Seriously, this white man's guilt trip has corroded your brain.
Lol Africa did shit for thousands of years before the white man came but if the white man leaves, somehow this will magically change. Black ruled nations have always gone down the tubes, inventing conspiracies is more nonsense. The rich conspire against everyone else, nothing new there and nothing special against Africa. They just don't have the advantage of European genes which bring smarts.
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Stonehenge said: They just don't have the advantage of European genes which bring smarts.
Absolutely no racism in The Pub, you know it. 
Doesn't this kind of beg the question of what is racism?
Africans as a whole are consistently shown to be less intelligent than Europeans as a whole. That is absolute fact. No, this doesn't say anything about anybody on an individual level, but it is extremely important in the study of populations. Of course, people will try to justify the gap with claims that it all has to do with economic factors and that if we all were equal in that regard then we would all be proven to be equal in intelligence, but this is really no more than a hypothesis which is continually contradicted by actual studies.
If we can't even entertain the idea that maybe, just maybe, Africa's problems are due to the shortcomings of its own people and just keep blaming the white man for everything, then there really isn't much of a debate.
Shroomery is a private web site and I respect its decision to make its own rules about what can and cannot be discussed. However, I still think it should be pointed out that by censoring other points of views or assuming that the people making them are trying to be mean-spirited ("racist"), it's harmful to society in the long run. There is a difference between trolling and giving an argument supported by facts.
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Turtletotem said: What do you know of the history of a whole continent? You know nothing, yet you talk as if the lies you're telling are common knowledge. Do people in your environment all think about Africa like that?
I think it's fair to ask you what YOU know about Africa? I've lived there and experienced it. That doesn't mean I know everything, but I would really like to understand where this idea that Africa is full of enlightened people who are just so eager to contribute to the human race but can't because of external forces which are never their fault. What great intellectual contributions has Africa made to the world and mankind in its lengthy history?
So, we're back to this.
Well, i could spend an hour compiling data to refute this garbage, but i already did that in another thread, so i'll just repost that.
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ballsalsa said: BTW, WAN, i see you guys are white supremacy buddies, and thats cool i guess, but you see that i was right about Stoney making unfounded claims, and then not having the data to back it up. The instead of admitting it, he tried to deflect(once again) by implying that the data would bear out his hypothesis, if only there were scientists ballsy enough to do the study. Well guess what guys, there are. here's what a simple wikipedia search has to say about intelligence among the races:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
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Geneticist, Alan R. Templeton argues that the question about the possible genetic effects on the test score gap is muddled by the general focus on "race" rather than on populations defined by gene frequency or by geographical proximity, and by the general insistence on phrasing the question in terms of heritability.[105] Templeton points out that racial groups neither represent sub-species nor distinct evolutionary lineages, and that therefore there is no basis for making claims about the general intelligence of races.[105] From this point of view the search for possible genetic influences on the black-white test score gap is a priori flawed, because there is no genetic material shared by all Africans or by all Europeans. Mackintosh (2011) points out that by using genetic cluster analysis to correlate gene frequencies with continental populations it could possibly be the case that African populations had a higher frequency of certain genetic variants that contribute to an average lower intelligence. Such a hypothetical situation could hold without all Africans carrying the same genes or belonging to a single Evolutionary lineage. According to Mackintosh, a biological basis for the gap thus cannot be ruled out on a priori grounds.
Several candidate genes have been proposed to have a relationship with intelligence.[107][108] However, a review of candidate genes for intelligence published in Deary, Johnson & Houlihan (2009) failed to find evidence of an association between these genes and general intelligence, stating "there is still almost no replicated evidence concerning the individual genes, which have variants that contribute to intelligence differences".[109]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
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Some studies have found the gains of the Flynn effect to be particularly concentrated at the lower end of the distribution. Teasdale and Owen (1989), for example, found the effect primarily reduced the number of low-end scores, resulting in an increased number of moderately high scores, with no increase in very high scores.[9] In another study, two large samples of Spanish children were assessed with a 30-year gap. Comparison of the IQ distributions indicated that the mean IQ-scores on the test had increased by 9.7 points (the Flynn effect), the gains were concentrated in the lower half of the distribution and negligible in the top half, and the gains gradually decreased as the IQ of the individuals increased.[10]
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The form of the population distribution of g is unknown, because g cannot be measured on a ratio scale. (The distributions of scores on typical IQ tests are roughly normal, but this is achieved by construction, i.e., by normalizing the raw scores.) It has been argued that there are nevertheless good reasons for supposing that g is normally distributed in the general population, at least within a range of ±2 standard deviations from the mean. In particular, g can be thought of as a composite variable that reflects the additive effects of a large number of independent genetic and environmental influences, and such a variable should, according to the central limit theorem, follow a normal distribution.[50]
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Re: The Worst News Ever [Re: ballsalsa]
#22448570 - 10/29/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You spent an hour compiling data from Wikipedia?
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ballsalsa
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well, i had to read through a bunch of pages, and check the cited sources etc. it can take awhile.
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Re: The Worst News Ever [Re: ballsalsa]
#22448639 - 10/29/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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There are so many things to worry about So I learned there are only 2 things to do 1. Prepare - now that I know I have done so much to prepare I feel more at peace. Knowing I have done what o can to protect and provide for my wife lets me enjoy my life with much more peace of mind 2. Meditate and yoga- there will always be scary things in life. These disciplines help maintain equanimity in the face of an often terrifying world
I also need to stockpile ketamine , mxe, benzos and painkillers if I can for a real worst case scenario.
I just did a long yoga and martial arts practice and meditation with theta binaural beats and it helps so much.
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Re: The Worst News Ever [Re: Moonshoe]
#22451353 - 10/29/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The age old legal disclaimer "All I write is fiction" it's like SWIM
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I just wish the articles I cited in the OP carried the same disclaimer...
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Re: The Worst News Ever [Re: Moonshoe]
#22457894 - 10/31/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: The Worst News Ever [Re: Moonshoe]
#22466152 - 11/02/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: There are so many things to worry about So I learned there are only 2 things to do 1. Prepare - now that I know I have done so much to prepare I feel more at peace. Knowing I have done what o can to protect and provide for my wife lets me enjoy my life with much more peace of mind 2. Meditate and yoga- there will always be scary things in life. These disciplines help maintain equanimity in the face of an often terrifying world
I also need to stockpile ketamine , mxe, benzos and painkillers if I can for a real worst case scenario.
I just did a long yoga and martial arts practice and meditation with theta binaural beats and it helps so much.
This times a million. The collapse of mankind is basically inevitable. The question is no longer if, but WHEN
Our ineffecient agricultural methods are what I think will fuck us over the most. That is IMO the biggest area of concern for me
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Re: The Worst News Ever [Re: topdog82]
#22466172 - 11/02/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: This times a million. The collapse of mankind is basically inevitable. The question is no longer if, but WHEN
Could be collapse, could be a new age. Such is life.
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topdog82 said: This times a million. The collapse of mankind is basically inevitable. The question is no longer if, but WHEN
Could be collapse, could be a new age. Such is life.
oh ya maybe thats true. At the end of all the suffering and pain, those who survived could start again and learn from mistakes of the past
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Re: The Worst News Ever [Re: topdog82]
#22466179 - 11/02/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Back from your ban topdog?
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yep. I insulted janky tits. I guess people didnt understand that it was a joke. I missed the shroomery
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