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OfflineShromey
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Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Fruiting Time! [Pictures]
    #22435430 - 10/26/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hello my friends!

I'm new to this community and I'm just about to do my first grow. To begin with, I started 3 weeks ago with 8 jars of the Pf-Tek! The mycelium growth was good so after one week the jars were fully colonized. After another week of waiting I birthed 6 of them in a SG-FC. With two of the jars I did an experiment and spawned them to coir/verm with a really bad ration of about 1:5.
So now 7 days are over and I don't see any signs of mushrooms from my cakes. But well...one week is not so much so I wait at least another week before I do anything.
On the other picture you can see my bulk-spawn. Should I wait a few days or let them fruit now?











Shromer


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Shromey] * 1
    #22435597 - 10/26/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Patience my man. Nice first post though! For real, it seems like you got ahold of all the necessary information and good readings, giving you a pretty good start as a first grow is concerned. Can't wait to see how it goes. :cheers:

I would wait more on the cakes to see whats up. As far as the bulk is concerned I would put into fruiting now as long as it's at 100%.


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: iSmkGrnBud] * 1
    #22440068 - 10/27/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

New update: I see pins for the first time! Words can not describe how happy I am at the moment!
I can see about 5-10 really tiny shrooms and very mush small white points which hopefully will be pins tomorrow. The Pins are so small that you cannot see them on the picture, but I will give you a photoupdate tomorrow!

What do you think: How often should I mist and fan everyday? The last week I misted and fanned the cakes 2-3 times a day. Should I continue misting and fanning, although there are pins already?

Shromey


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Shromey]
    #22440166 - 10/27/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, you will want to continue to lightly mist your cakes. The mist/fan schedule is really determined by how the surface of your cake is looking. Make sure the cake is glistening with little beads of water at all times, or it'll dry out, and cause delays in pinning.


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22440739 - 10/27/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think my bulk spawn is ready! I spawned two cakes to about 1,5 quarts of coir/verm.
I put the pan in my second SGFC and wait. Should I mist this colonized bulk substrate too?



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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Shromey]
    #22440892 - 10/27/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Tbh that sub looks really wet. That's probably why the bottom portion hasn't been colonized properly. Give it lots of FAE and :goodluck:


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22448978 - 10/29/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

New update: Now some of the pins are already big enough for a good photo. As you can soo, especially the biggest pins came from the bottom of my jars? Could this be a problem?





Is just bought an osterizer replacement blade to make a grain slurry. I plan to glue it to the lid of a jar and move it with my drill. it is almost impossible to buy a cheap old osterizer blender here in Europe.


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Shromey]
    #22449008 - 10/29/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I cant see any holes in your FC, build a proper SGFC now and next grow roll the cakes in verm! :thumbup:
they pin where they want to, dont worry mushrooms are smart!


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: spacechildo] * 1
    #22453733 - 10/30/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The mushrooms are growing faster then expected! Take a look at my shrooms:



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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Shromey]
    #22453816 - 10/30/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Cool :thumbup: , but I don't see any holes in that tub! :shocked:

Can you take a pic of the outside? You need to build a proper SGFC or those cakes will most likely stall out due to severe lack of FAE.


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22453887 - 10/30/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

you can grow cubes without any FAE at all but you'll really benefit from having proper air exchange.
the old school pf-tek had 0 FAE, you'll just get longer thinner shrooms stretching for air.


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: spacechildo]
    #22453901 - 10/30/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for your answers! Yes, there are holes in the SGFC, but I made less then normal because I have a really low humidity in my flat due to the heating in the winter.
On every side there are 3 holes about 2" above the top of the perlite layer and a few holes on the ground. I try to fan my SGFC about 3 times a day. I made fewer holes than the original tek because I thought that the low humidity in my room will dry out the FC if there are so many holes.

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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Shromey]
    #22453933 - 10/30/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

other way around, more air in = more evaporation = more humidity.
get a spray bottle with water and simply mist the cakes + perlite and you're back to high RH where it matters.

deviating from the tek's because "you thought that" rarely leads to much good :super:


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: spacechildo]
    #22453955 - 10/30/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hm okay that makes sense. My shrooms should be ready to harvest in about 3 days. So i will try to fan as often as possible. After the first flush I will pimp my SGFC to a "real SGFC" with many more holes.

I'm not sure if i should mist the cakes now, because I've read that misting during the fruiting is not a good idea!


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Shromey]
    #22453997 - 10/30/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

fanning is never a replacement for FAE, fanning will only lower your rh for a second and give evap off the cakes a jump start.

misting fruits is fine but if you dont have any fresh air coming in they'll just sit soggy wet and not be happy.

just get a drill or something metal you can heat and melt holes with..


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Shromey]
    #22454729 - 10/30/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

One of the only new PF tek growers posting what looks like it a genuinely good result, due to his cakes not being dried out by an undermisted SGFC, and all you can tell him is he's doing it wrong?  Those pins/mushrooms look pretty good to me, no tapefing go speak of or underdeveloped caps, not even any fuzzy feet.  No evidence of intense CO2 buildup.  Maybe he'll lose 10% BE :suicide:

GJ dude!


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Machiavelliavore] * 2
    #22454893 - 10/30/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

it's not about what works its about how to do it the best possible.
just add a cpl smileys after my posts and you'd have no problem with it.

sorry I dont take the time to say great man, thumb up man, you rock man every time I have some constructive critisicm to give..


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: spacechildo]
    #22456424 - 10/31/15 03:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hey dudes!
Thank you very much for your help! I appreciate every criticism because it helps me to improve my growing skills! Today I have a new picture update for you! From my point of view they are doing great and will be ready to harvest in a very few days.
My glovebox is almost ready, so I'm really looking forward to make my own syringes.





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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Shromey]
    #22456655 - 10/31/15 07:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome cakes man :congrats: You should look into agar and clone some of those mushies, you have some fine specimens there!


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Re: Newbe: First Bulk spawn and Pf-Tek: Some Questions + Pictures! [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22456661 - 10/31/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you very much! I'm really happy and a bit proud that my first grow looks to be a success! I'm really interested in the final yield. I think 100g (3,5 oz) wet could be possible!


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