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Do you believe the Universe is Cyclical?
#22434466 - 10/26/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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As in, do u believe that the Universe will exist forever by a never-ending cycle of life then death, Big Bang to Big Freeze, for example, forever?
I believe this and i had this personal revelation during a morning glory trip.
also, are we living in the first ever Universe or were there many Universes before this one?
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#22434475 - 10/26/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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As things come to exist, they also cease to exist.
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: Chakanooga]
#22434742 - 10/26/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Chakanooga said: As things come to exist, they also cease to exist.
and then what?
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: zzripz]
#22434853 - 10/26/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I believe the unniverse works in a fluid manner, certainly cycles within it. Perhaps we were put here to mine the planet by aliens in a petry dish style experiment....hell who knows?
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: Davesnothere]
#22436187 - 10/26/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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My gut feeling says there's somewhat of a cyclical nature to the universe. Perhaps a cycle of expansion and contraction.
At the end of the day though, who bloody knows!!
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#22436369 - 10/26/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Current physics says it will continue expanding indefinitely resulting in heat death.
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#22439292 - 10/27/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: My gut feeling says there's somewhat of a cyclical nature to the universe. Perhaps a cycle of expansion and contraction.
At the end of the day though, who bloody knows!!
it is innate as reality. You are living this reality now. You cycle, spiral
knows cannot ever be independent of un-knows or unknown, known and unknown are a dynamic process which spirals
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: zzripz]
#22439324 - 10/27/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The concept of Infinite Space is in itself flawed.
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#22439685 - 10/27/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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No I don't believe it as I have no evidence to suggest this scenario more likely than the universe not being cyclical.
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: mm.]
#22439746 - 10/27/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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mm. said: No I don't believe it as I have no evidence to suggest this scenario more likely than the universe not being cyclical.
but you also don't have any evidence to suggest that it isn't cyclical. we really have no idea.
I really think that it is. I sort of picture the multiverses like a firework show. each one expanding and contracting back into itself, infinitely.
I have no proof of this of course, but my intuition, and personal experiences with (insert whatever you want to call the space occupied by other entities when you travel on psychedelics) and meditation.
nothing is finite IMO.
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22439759 - 10/27/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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but you also don't have any evidence to suggest that it isn't cyclical
Only if one discards all current knowledge of cosmology and astrophysics, but other than that...
I never understood why those least educated in a field are so happy to offer their opinion as if it carried the slightest bit of weight.
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I clearly stated that my claims had no weight to them, and the current body of evidence doesn't prove that it isn't cyclical, it only provides a theory that suggests it isn't.
I'll never understand why people attach themselves so strongly to theories and stop considering other possibilities.
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22439804 - 10/27/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seems you are doubling down. Do you not understand what a scientific theory is?
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I do. no need to talk down to me.
I understand that the current body of evidence we have points towards that direction. It's just not concrete, and I like to keep an open mind and consider other possibilities.
based on my experiences with life, and my intuition, my theory makes more sense to me.
isn't that what any good scientist would do?
how else do you break free from a dogma?
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22439881 - 10/27/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I do. no need to talk down to me.
Apparently I do, as you once again completely miss the mark as evidenced by your following statement.
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based on my experiences with life, and my intuition, my theory makes more sense to me.
This is, at best, a weak hypothesis, and no where near theory status. "Making sense" is not a valid metric.
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I understand that the current body of evidence we have points towards that direction.
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but you also don't have any evidence to suggest that it isn't cyclical.
You previous two statements are contradictory. Seems you don't even know what you believe.
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isn't that what any good scientist would do?
A good scientist would understand the distinctions between an assertion, a hypothesis and a theory as a starting point.
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the current body of evidence doesn't disprove any opposing theories. theories have been turned over plenty of times in the past. nothing is certain.
I'm not here to argue man. you can be as right as you want to be and I'm just going to keep my mind open.
here's an article supporting the multiverse theory -http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=5907
and another - http://www.space.com/25100-multiverse-cosmic-inflation-gravitational-waves.html
there's lots of theories. don't be so quick to hop on your high horse man. there's lots of conflicting theories out right now, none are more right than another.
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22439942 - 10/27/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Way to duck my points. Seems you have no desire for a real discussion.
Conflating dogma with a theory is laughable to even a novice scientist.
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I never claimed to be a good scientist, or a scientist at all other than in the very pure meaning of searching for truth. I was just illustrating that sucking at the teet of the current model can blind you, and I prefer to be open and imaginative.
you're right, I'm not interested. you seem close minded, only interested in stroking your ego
have fun with that. I know it feels good.
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Re: Do you believe the Universe is cyclical? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22439982 - 10/27/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Please explain how having a firm knowledge of basic terminology and current scientific understanding is ego-stroking while wallowing in ignorance is the preferred state.
Only a person stuck in ego would be so reactionary. A genuinely curious person would check to see if I know what I am talking about.
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you already made it very clear with your elitist attitude that you absolutely know what you're talking about.
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Only if one discards all current knowledge of cosmology and astrophysics, but other than that...
-typical know it all science douche attitude. the sarcasm was unnecessary.
if you had come to me with a bit more humility, I'd be more than interested in talking about it, but you didn't.
so you ride your high horse into the sunset and I'll keep my ignorance.
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