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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Asante]
#22435951 - 10/26/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: I'm not so sure that China would be a worse superpower than the US has been lately. Ever since the cold war is over the US has gotten more and more unreasonable in its foreign policies.
That kinda depends on where you live. Talk to people from Japan, S. Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan and Singapore about how they feel toward China's military and you'll hear a different answer than what concerns us in the West.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: KauaiOrca] 1
#22436000 - 10/26/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Talk to people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Palestine about the American military and you'd get a similar answer.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Asante]
#22436063 - 10/26/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Talk to people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Palestine about the American military and you'd get a similar answer.
Oil has been the cause of most of America's bad foreign policy decisions and actions over lat 50 years.
There is so much more opportunity for America if we focus on THE AMERICA'S ... and not the Middle East and Asia. Plenty of resources, labor, a far more compatible belief system and let's face it, there are millions of gorgeous latinas out there too!
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22436394 - 10/26/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This whole thread is all for naught....anyone that thinks big oil (Exxon, Shell,or whoever) will let oil stay at $45.00 a barrel is taking way too many psychs. Ain't gonna happen. Exxon just pulled out of the Arctic because the cost to extract oil from those vast reserves under the sea was not worth the trouble. They couldn't justify it at current prices.
A shit ton of oil related projects including the keystone pipeline will disintegrate because of the costs of extracting that oil from the tarsands in Canada will not be profitable at current prices. $45.00 a barrel will not be here long...enjoy it while we have it. They will find a way to gradually push up these low prices.....they always have in the past.
The only thing that will possibly keep prices low will be low demand and, although cheap extraction of hydrogen and cheaper, more efficient and cleaner energy sources will eventually come....I don't see that happening in the near future.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Thayendanegea]
#22436470 - 10/26/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Thayendanegea]
#22436476 - 10/26/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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They were pulling oil workers and welders etc out of North Dakota for the past year or so. A lot of six figure jobs just fell from sight. People would commute 90 minutes twice a day or do 10 days on 5 days off. The same people who five years ago bragged about their "benefits and retirement by age 45". At least some people got on the gravy train while it lasted.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Thayendanegea]
#22436725 - 10/26/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: This whole thread is all for naught....anyone that thinks big oil (Exxon, Shell,or whoever) will let oil stay at $45.00 a barrel is taking way too many psychs. Ain't gonna happen. Exxon just pulled out of the Arctic because the cost to extract oil from those vast reserves under the sea was not worth the trouble. They couldn't justify it at current prices.
A shit ton of oil related projects including the keystone pipeline will disintegrate because of the costs of extracting that oil from the tarsands in Canada will not be profitable at current prices. $45.00 a barrel will not be here long...enjoy it while we have it. They will find a way to gradually push up these low prices.....they always have in the past.
The only thing that will possibly keep prices low will be low demand and, although cheap extraction of hydrogen and cheaper, more efficient and cleaner energy sources will eventually come....I don't see that happening in the near future.
no bodies sayin that
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22436847 - 10/26/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i have to agree with the anti-saudi sentiments in this thread
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: abltsandwich]
#22438293 - 10/26/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: Wasn't it the Saudis' plan to drop the price of oil on their end to hurt the American oil production?
That is still what they are doing. Not just USA but Norway, Canada, Russia etc. If they can hold out for five years they will pretty much wipe out the industry in those places. We can't just start up the day after the price goes up either it requires years of pre planning logistics and pre construction, permits, hiring etc. Right now projects are on hold and will be cancelled outright if this keeps up. In 5 years the Saudis will be able to charge whatever they want for oil. The rest of the world will just be playing catch up. By the time they get the infrastructure built the saudis can just drop price again. I almost think it's time to invade the fuckers to put a stop to it. At least in the oil town I live in rents on apartments are dropping. Prices on hookers are going down too, or um so i hear. This is going to be bad for economic health of Canada overall though. Cheaper gas stimulates economy but oil is still vital here. I don't work in the industry but I buy a lot of stuff from the USA and our dollar just keeps falling.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: koods]
#22438326 - 10/26/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Saudi Arabia without oil revenue is worse than Afghanistan.
which means absolutely nothing to me
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Asante]
#22438331 - 10/26/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Talk to people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Palestine about the American military and you'd get a similar answer.
have you talked to them? I'm sure somalis loved starving to death to make sure the warlords could eat
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22438368 - 10/26/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: I'm not so sure that China would be a worse superpower than the US has been lately. Ever since the cold war is over the US has gotten more and more unreasonable in its foreign policies.
US Foreign policy went astray right after world war 2. It started when the US refused to back their ally ho Chi minh who wanted to establish a republic like the United in Vietnam.
But no, we had to help the French Fried Faggots, and so our horrible policy decision led to the mindless vietnam war.
And Europe? Fuck Europe. Next time Germany invades any of the countries we won't save their asses.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22443555 - 10/28/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Talk to people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Palestine about the American military and you'd get a similar answer.
have you talked to them? I'm sure somalis loved starving to death to make sure the warlords could eat
I have talked to people from those countries, except Afghans. A lot of Europeans have talked to people from those places, because when they flee, this is where they go! 
They do not like the US militairy one bit, and I can't say I blame them.
Hell, I know two Iraqi guys who are still confused why their country had to be ruined, they had it pretty good and now they live below minimum wage in a cold-ass country while the barbarians are overrunning their homelands.
And let's not even talk about overthrowing democratic goverments because Americans wanted acces to cheap banana's or some shit like that.
Now none of this is your fault, or your childrens, but god damn, you can't even discuss such things with most Americans, because the chanting, flag-waving and chestbeating just takes over and poop gets flung everywhere!
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starfire_xes said: And Europe? Fuck Europe. Next time Germany invades any of the countries we won't save their asses.
See? Nuts!
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Turtletotem]
#22443682 - 10/28/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Talk to people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Palestine about the American military and you'd get a similar answer.
have you talked to them? I'm sure somalis loved starving to death to make sure the warlords could eat
I have talked to people from those countries, except Afghans. A lot of Europeans have talked to people from those places, because when they flee, this is where they go! 
They do not like the US militairy one bit, and I can't say I blame them.
Hell, I know two Iraqi guys who are still confused why their country had to be ruined, they had it pretty good and now they live below minimum wage in a cold-ass country while the barbarians are overrunning their homelands.
And let's not even talk about overthrowing democratic goverments because Americans wanted acces to cheap banana's or some shit like that.
Now none of this is your fault, or your childrens, but god damn, you can't even discuss such things with most Americans, because the chanting, flag-waving and chestbeating just takes over and poop gets flung everywhere!
it would seem that your experiences are very different than my own, is it possible that they're playing to the crowds, "oh, the americans were so terrible for us, we loved saddam so very much, he was a great man" versus "saddam was a ruthless dictator, it's good that he was removed from power"
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Turtletotem]
#22443738 - 10/28/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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that was a long fucking time ago bud shit was alottt different back then. Your talking right after WWII bud. I mean thats like bringing up the philipines or some shit. Fucking people just straight thought differently back then. We alrady said we were sorry for that jeez WHAT DO YOU WANT.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22443746 - 10/28/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Talk to people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Palestine about the American military and you'd get a similar answer.
have you talked to them? I'm sure somalis loved starving to death to make sure the warlords could eat
I have talked to people from those countries, except Afghans. A lot of Europeans have talked to people from those places, because when they flee, this is where they go! 
They do not like the US militairy one bit, and I can't say I blame them.
Hell, I know two Iraqi guys who are still confused why their country had to be ruined, they had it pretty good and now they live below minimum wage in a cold-ass country while the barbarians are overrunning their homelands.
And let's not even talk about overthrowing democratic goverments because Americans wanted acces to cheap banana's or some shit like that.
Now none of this is your fault, or your childrens, but god damn, you can't even discuss such things with most Americans, because the chanting, flag-waving and chestbeating just takes over and poop gets flung everywhere!
it would seem that your experiences are very different than my own, is it possible that they're playing to the crowds, "oh, the americans were so terrible for us, we loved saddam so very much, he was a great man" versus "saddam was a ruthless dictator, it's good that he was removed from power"
nah most iraqi people ive talk to said shit like "oh yeh i mean saddam kinda sucked but atleast there wasnt missles blowing up my house. combat zones and forigne military checkpoints on every block"
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22443756 - 10/28/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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so their problem is with the UN but they blame the US
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22443763 - 10/28/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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their problem is people coming in and fucking everything up
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22443773 - 10/28/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: their problem is people coming in and fucking everything up
Their "problem" is a centuries old legacy belief system and mindset that prevents peaceful democracy from taking root ... Instead, they are drawn to religiously "credible" iron fisted leaders and dictators that bludgeon them into submission.
That's reality.
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Re: Saudi Arabia to run out of cash within 5 years says IMF [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22443774 - 10/28/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why were we in iraq dewd? Americans died behind that shit and we stomped a whole shithole country of people into the dust. Why?
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