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Invisiblesomuchlove
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New York
    #22433989 - 10/25/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)






habitat- wet area in deciduous woods, on old log about 4' up

Gills- brown tan, attached

Stem- tan,orange veil,  1/4-2", hollow stringy

cap- tan brown,smooth, a little wrinkled dry, 1/4"-2"


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Re: New York [Re: somuchlove]
    #22434009 - 10/25/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

looks like its Gymnopilius to me.  wait for more opinions obviously

nice find, not too slug/maggot ravaged


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Re: New York [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #22434113 - 10/25/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

looks like some dryish deadly Galerina autumnalis to me

because
size, habitat, whiteish stems, annulus

I'd air on the side of caution without microscopy on these ones.....


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Re: New York [Re: Roger Wilco]
    #22434185 - 10/25/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

for the sake of argument, i'll illustrate what i'd call Galerina



and what i'd call Gymnopilius:



i wouldn't say never, but personally, i don't think i see the in-rolled pilius on dry galerina like gyms get.  maybe you do?
i will also add that these were found growing from buried maple root so they grow straight up and so the morphology is a little different on these above ones as a result.

i don't find the stems to be too light, but i do find them too robust compared to galerina i find.  i'll be glad to hear a TI's opinion
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and OP, roger is right, best to err on the side of caution regardless of the outcome here.


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Edited by RuralAnomaly (10/25/15 11:25 PM)


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Re: New York [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #22434252 - 10/25/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i think galerina


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Re: New York *DELETED* [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #22434340 - 10/26/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Post deleted by somuchlove

Reason for deletion: I just ask nicely. Thank you



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Re: New York [Re: somuchlove]
    #22435001 - 10/26/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

........It might not be Galerina, but have it scoped...

Heres a picture labeled Galerina mariginata from wikipedia



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Galerina_marginata_63678.jpg


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Re: New York [Re: somuchlove]
    #22435010 - 10/26/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I did some saturday at noon and some today......




Did you get high on saturday? Did you get a buzz today??

If you didn't.........sketchy dude!

Never eat mushrooms you are not 100% sure of the identity!

Are there any left over?


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Re: New York [Re: Roger Wilco]
    #22435124 - 10/26/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If you didn't feel anything, no need to panic. TheLightning seemed pretty confident, and that TI rating is not for show. We'll try and get him over to sort this out. Don't throw out any mushrooms you have left, and maybe take a bunch of milk thistle extract. If you don't get sick by then end of the day you're probably clear.

Eating mushrooms without absolute certainty of safety is never worth it: the worry alone can ruin your day.


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Re: New York [Re: Lost Geometer B]
    #22435163 - 10/26/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Okay thanks


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Re: New York [Re: Roger Wilco]
    #22435188 - 10/26/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)





Edited by somuchlove (01/11/16 07:16 AM)


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Re: New York [Re: somuchlove]
    #22435237 - 10/26/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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somuchlove said:





habitat- wet area in deciduous woods, on old log about 4' up

Gills- brown tan, attached

Stem- tan,orange veil,  1/4-2", hollow stringy

cap- tan brown,smooth, a little wrinkled dry, 1/4"-2"





Note to all: The immediately above collection is what we're identifying.



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RuralAnomaly said:
looks like its Gymnopilius to me. 





RuralAnomaly is correct!


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Roger Wilco said:
looks like some dryish deadly Galerina autumnalis to me







This is incorrect. See notes below.



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Silky_Johnson said:
i think galerina





This is incorrect. See notes below.


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I did some saturday at noon and some today.





Amatoxins (Amanita-toxins)

These are poisonous compounds carried by the Amanita family, as well as members of the galerinas, conocybes and lepiotas. Here is a short list of some of species that contain these toxins:

    Destroying Angel (Amanita ocreata)
    Fool's mushroom (Amanita verna)
    European Destroying Angel (Amanita virosa)
    Death Angel (Amanita bisporigera)
    Deadly Conocybe (Conocybe filaris)
    Deadly Parasol (Lepiota josserandii)
    Deadly Galerina (Galerina autumnalis)

Amatoxin poisoning is extremely dangerous and has a high fatality rate. The trouble with them is that they often cause liver and kidney failure. The symptoms are also often delayed and may not be visible for 6 hours or up to 24 hours after ingestion.

Symptoms include violent vomiting, bloody diarrhea, severe cramps. Often, these symptoms may subside and appear to indicate recovery. Lastly, relapse occurs and failure of kidneys and the liver leads to death.


Today is well under way and it's Monday. This collection was eaten on Saturday. Depending on what time they were eaten, we're approaching the 48hr mark. If those were Galerina, the OP would have called an ambulance by now and felt she/he was dying. She/he would be violently vomiting and defecating, and stomach pain would be unbearable.


I am confident that the mushrooms in the OP are a Gymnopilus species and that species is currently known as Gymnopilus junonius (=Gymnopilus spectabilis). Some of you need to slow your role with identifying. Now, there's one caveat to this ordeal: The OP mentioned that she/he went back to the tree and ate more, but those were never shown to me. I can only identify what I can see.


OP, describe how you felt Saturday, Sunday, and how you feel now that it's Monday.


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Here's dome pics. They do look exactly like the wiki pics. I feel okay. I dont think i got a buzz. Just nervous







Now that does resemble a Galerina, and not the original mushrooms identified. How many did you eat?


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Re: New York [Re: The Lightning]
    #22435261 - 10/26/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Notta


Edited by somuchlove (01/11/16 07:17 AM)


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Re: New York [Re: somuchlove]
    #22435263 - 10/26/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I did dry them


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Re: New York [Re: somuchlove]
    #22435273 - 10/26/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Please read my entire post and answer in detail the other questions.


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Re: New York [Re: The Lightning]
    #22435321 - 10/26/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes


Edited by somuchlove (01/11/16 07:18 AM)


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Re: New York [Re: The Lightning]
    #22435323 - 10/26/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I hate to say it, but in my opinion they both look like the same species of Galerina, the first pick likely drier.

I'll slow my roll now. (tongue buried in cheek)


Edited by Roger Wilco (10/26/15 10:26 AM)


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Re: New York [Re: somuchlove]
    #22435325 - 10/26/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And Ive been a little dehydrated since last night.


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Re: New York [Re: somuchlove]
    #22435352 - 10/26/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Alright, well, you've mentioned minor symptoms that may be consistent with Amatoxins, but something tells me everything's okay.


Call the Legalon SIL hotline: 866-520-4412 and ask for assistance to be on the safe side. If they are unavailable contact poison control at 1-800-222-1222.


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Re: New York [Re: somuchlove]
    #22435354 - 10/26/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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And Ive been a little dehydrated since last night.




Do you think both mushrooms are of the same species somuchlove?? you photographed them......

If you do think the moist fresh ones in the new photos are the same as the first dry ones, it wouldn't hurt to go get checked up or make a call perhaps.....It's a caution thing.......


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