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OfflineDosenbier
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Next try. Liberty caps - ID request
    #22432477 - 10/25/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hi,

found those on a paddock today in Germany. They are yellowish brownish, have a small nippel and gills is dark brown. Spore print isn't made yet.

Are these liberty caps?



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Re: Next try. Liberty caps - ID request [Re: Dosenbier]
    #22432538 - 10/25/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm no expert, but the bigger ones with the straight stems don't look like libs at all to me.

The smaller ones that have the typical liberty cap shape could well be.

Hopefully someone will be along shortly to confirm for sure.


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Re: Next try. Liberty caps - ID request [Re: eastlancsguy]
    #22435231 - 10/26/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd say they are the same. Anyone else knows for sure? Spore prints are coming.


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Re: Next try. Liberty caps - ID request [Re: Dosenbier]
    #22435343 - 10/26/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think they are libs, gills look off.


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Re: Next try. Liberty caps - ID request [Re: Dosenbier]
    #22435410 - 10/26/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Dosenbier said:
Hi,

found those on a paddock today in Germany. They are yellowish brownish, have a small nippel and gills is dark brown. Spore print isn't made yet.

Are these liberty caps?






The 3 on the left and the one on top (first pic) look like Stropharia semiglobata. The other 3 small ones could be libs but need better pics.


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Re: Next try. Liberty caps - ID request [Re: CharlesBruce]
    #22438618 - 10/27/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Stropharia semiglobata grows directly on dung? Those in the pics did not.


They are dry now and the spore print didn't work out like i thought. They didn't change their color. 
I think i have to throw them away though they might be the first libs i've found


Edited by Dosenbier (10/27/15 01:28 AM)


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Re: Next try. Liberty caps - ID request [Re: Dosenbier]
    #22438722 - 10/27/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm looking forward to an ehrlich test. Then i should know if they contain psilocybin


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Re: Next try. Liberty caps - ID request [Re: Dosenbier]
    #22439003 - 10/27/15 05:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They look like Stropharia semiglobata to me.  The three smaller ones the others pointed out could possibly be libs but it is difficult to tell in those pics.  Stropharia semiglobata does grow directly from dung but it is not always clear where they are growing from in a field with the dung in various stages of decomposition, and enriching the soil.

You are right to throw them away.  Any doubt, toss them out.

Those specimens were already quite dry for a spore print so it can help to wet the inside of the glass they are under and put some drops of water on the caps to rehydrate them.  In this case, however, it wouldn't have helped with your identification as both Stropharia semiglobata and libs have purple-brown spore prints.


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