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evenbreak
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Semen retention and energy
#22431846 - 10/25/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Does anyone else feel a noticable "energy" or "chakra" sensation after even a short period of not cumming?
It's been 1 week and I feel a slight, but definitely tangible sensation in my torso and chest. It's very strange because I don't normally feel anything or believe in things like chakra or energy.
This is why I believe that the ancients might have a point that there are spiritual benefits to celibacy. Maybe there is a reason why most old religions have such a hard-on for being pure and chaste. Maybe they weren't just prudes...
-------------------- It has been reported that some victims of torture, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not wake up. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren’t being tortured. The only way that they realized they needed to wake up was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to wake up. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and please wake up.
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cez

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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: evenbreak]
#22431856 - 10/25/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't buy it. I've gone over a year retaining semen and am currently on a few month hiatus since the last time I've ejaculated and nothing is wildly different from post-ejaculation awareness. .....Maybe I'm just not doing right...
Celibacy is important for population control, especially back in the ole days.
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champinhom
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: evenbreak]
#22431884 - 10/25/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Greeks--a very intelligent and clearsighted bunch--would not indulge in sexual enterprises for some time before any athletic event in which they were participating. A lot of fight trainers these days frown heavily on their boxers having women anywere near them while they train for big matches.
The quickest way in the world to lose your edge is daily sexual discharge. When I was in high school another word for goof was jag off. There is a reason for that.
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evenbreak
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: cez]
#22431905 - 10/25/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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cez said: I don't buy it. I've gone over a year retaining semen and am currently on a few month hiatus since the last time I've ejaculated and nothing is wildly different from post-ejaculation awareness. .....Maybe I'm just not doing right...
Celibacy is important for population control, especially back in the ole days.
A year, huh? That's a very long time. I'm only one week in and I already feel something.. admittedly, mainly because the lust is so overwhelming that I'm forced to stay extremely mindful on it to make sure I don't start fantasizing.
Are you indulging in fantasies?
What was your motivation to not ejaculate for an entire year, if you were receiving minimal results from it?
-------------------- It has been reported that some victims of torture, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not wake up. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren’t being tortured. The only way that they realized they needed to wake up was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to wake up. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and please wake up.
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cez

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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: champinhom]
#22431907 - 10/25/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ejaculation I believe yields a melatonin discharge in the brain which is why the Greeks maybe prohibited the act, and this can also explain why people think they lose their "edge" when they over indulge in that high.
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cez

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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: cez]
#22432058 - 10/25/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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evenbreak said:
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cez said: I don't buy it. I've gone over a year retaining semen and am currently on a few month hiatus since the last time I've ejaculated and nothing is wildly different from post-ejaculation awareness. .....Maybe I'm just not doing right...
Celibacy is important for population control, especially back in the ole days.
A year, huh? That's a very long time. I'm only one week in and I already feel something.. admittedly, mainly because the lust is so overwhelming that I'm forced to stay extremely mindful on it to make sure I don't start fantasizing.
Are you indulging in fantasies?
What was your motivation to not ejaculate for an entire year, if you were receiving minimal results from it?
I was never very sexually driven so to abstain for me is somewhat effortless. I typically don't have sexual fantasies but when I do get sexually aroused, I tend to just observe the process. The high of masturbation is just not something I care to chase. If I am fortunate enough to cross paths with a lover, I'd have no problem letting loads go all day, but I seem to have a hard time in that realm of life.
Perhaps there is something to your experience because this activity is forcing you to be mindful so I think it will be beneficial for you.
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Love_spirit
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: evenbreak]
#22432065 - 10/25/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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No. I just becoming obsessed with sex. I once made it 6 months without cumming. My god that seemed like such an accomplishment. Never held back again. Enjoy the wet dreams.
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eehoo
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: Love_spirit]
#22432139 - 10/25/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Has a huge affect on me.., depends how much semen you produce and how biologically viable you are. My dreams become the biggest change ... Last time I went a long time retaining semen I would have dreams where I literally felt like I was in heaven at times
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: eehoo]
#22432576 - 10/25/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I also call bogus. I went a month once and even woke up in time to withhold noctural emission. It was torture and when I finally released, the semen was dead and discolored. Now I am back to my daily ritual (only at night, after all activities) and I feel like a teenager again. My testosterone and dht levels are excellent (along with reduced estrogen), muscle gains consistent with visible arm veins and a strong will.
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: cez]
#22432847 - 10/25/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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cez said: Ejaculation I believe yields a melatonin discharge in the brain which is why the Greeks maybe prohibited the act, and this can also explain why people think they lose their "edge" when they over indulge in that high.
That's interesting. I guess it depends depends on what you think it means to discharge spiritual energy. Couldn't discharging an important neurotransmitter be a physical manifestation of that?
Even though women don't lose spiritual energy from orgasm the same way men do, we still do a little. It's interesting what yo pu say about dreams eehoo, because I've noticed exactly the same thing. Once I lost vital energy either through orgasm or the menstrual cycle, I notice I have hardly any dream recall at all. Whereas when I have built up a good store, dreams are vivid and lucid. I noticed the same with meditation. Must stress though, this is a spiritual energy we are talking about. Unless you are doing regular meditation, working with chakras, kundalini energy etc, you probably won't notice anything and it will make you sexually frustrated.
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: PocketLady]
#22433051 - 10/25/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just holding it in isn't good, you've got to work with the energy.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4362704
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: Middleman]
#22433309 - 10/25/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm combining semen retention with this: http://www.whitelotuseast.com/MultipleOrgasm.htm
along with some of Mantak Chia's ideas, but I don't like how much he uses the word "energy" in his explanation of 'how to' when everyone on the internet I've read claim to be successful says it's just about retention and the timing of pc squeezes
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: Middleman]
#22433539 - 10/25/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: Just holding it in isn't good, you've got to work with the energy.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4362704
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evenbreak
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: PocketLady]
#22492395 - 11/07/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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3 weeks, im feeling better than when i was jerking it daily, that's for sure. and i feel a lot less inclined to chase after lust and orgasms.
i think this is good for me!
-------------------- It has been reported that some victims of torture, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not wake up. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren’t being tortured. The only way that they realized they needed to wake up was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to wake up. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and please wake up.
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: evenbreak]
#22492636 - 11/07/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think you've got to moderate it, unless you have a particularly high sex drive. Then moderation is daily 'use'... but you should with a normal libido be aiming for 2-3 days between 'uses'. If you're at it 5 times a day you'll probably get depressed. Also, time for a girlfriend...
I can't talk though. Huge libido, no wimmenz.
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: circastes]
#22493551 - 11/07/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moderation is key. Don't jerk off everyday. There is no point in never ejaculating, after a few days depending on you, you're back to peak levels. I think you should jerk whenever you feel like it and haven't for 5 or more days.
But have as much sex as you want.
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Re: Semen retention and energy [Re: Love2Love]
#22506355 - 11/10/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's a storied history of retention and the redirection of sexual energy in various cultures... look up the term "sublimation" to see how thinkers have interpreted it in religious contexts, as well as in psychology in the last few centuries.
Obviously don't believe everything you read, but here are a few resources I found to get you started on your journey:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublimation_%28psychology%29#Sexual_sublimation
http://www.psykosyntese.dk/a-197/
http://www.goldenflowermeditation.com/golden_flower_blog/sexual-sublimation.html
http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/coping/sublimation.htm
It also might be important to note that all animals spend a reasonable amount of energy on producing gametes (sex cells), in your case sperm. Humans expend considerably less of their energy on this than fish, for example, who spend some ridiculously large percentage of their total energy on gamete production. Retention could conserve some of this energy, but of course with side effects.
I notice differences in consciousness when abstinent for sure, but it levels off after a certain point. That period around one or two weeks is definitely noticeable, if you're used to doing it every day. I imagine it would be different for those of you who are accustomed to abstaining for long periods of time.
Edited by Zenethylamine (11/10/15 06:10 PM)
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