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PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question.
    #22429107 - 10/24/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If substrate jars are pressure cooked in the morning do they still have to be cooled overnight?

How long must the cooling process take?


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22429126 - 10/24/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No
Probably around 6-9 hours. The inside is NOT any more warm than the outside.


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22429129 - 10/24/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:trololol: yup... gotta leave them overnight or the cake fairy won't rub her magic cunt on em... lol, they just gotta cool down to room temp bro.


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Arush]
    #22429136 - 10/24/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Does the same apply for PF BRF TEK jars aswell as grain jars?


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22429137 - 10/24/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes sir...


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22429143 - 10/24/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:trololol: yup... gotta leave them overnight or the cake fairy won't rub her magic cunt on em... lol, they just gotta cool down to room temp bro.




And when do you know they are cooled to room temp?


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22429154 - 10/24/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

the most accurate way is to use an infrared thermometer.  if you don't wait until it cools down enough (i dont remember the exact temp, i usually wait til about 90 degrees), it'll kill the spores or mycelium


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22429161 - 10/24/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You touch the bottom of the jar to your eyeball...if it doesn't hurt, you're good...if it still feels warm to the touch then wait a little longer...better safe than sorry.


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22429183 - 10/24/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:
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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22429801 - 10/24/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:trololol: yup... gotta leave them overnight or the cake fairy won't rub her magic cunt on em... lol, they just gotta cool down to room temp bro.




And when do you know they are cooled to room temp?




God damn it man, seriously?  I know you're doing this on purpose.


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22430243 - 10/25/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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LocN9ne said:
:trololol: yup... gotta leave them overnight or the cake fairy won't rub her magic cunt on em... lol, they just gotta cool down to room temp bro.




And when do you know they are cooled to room temp?




God damn it man, seriously?  I know you're doing this on purpose.




I'm DEAD SERIOUS
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If the PC is cool to the touch on the outside, does that mean the jars on the inside are cool aswell and ready to be inoculated, because you don't want to open the PC until the jars have cooled down inside it right?


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22430327 - 10/25/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What?  No!  Where are you getting this?

Open the PC when pressure drops to 0, or whenever the hell you feel like it after that point.  I take the jars out hot all the time to start a new PC cycle.  Just gotta use an oven mitt or thick rubber gloves to grab them usually.  I believe if you get them out while they're still hot it helps dry out the filters, whether that's dry verm or SFDs, either way, wet filters can fuck your shit, so letting them moisten up in a PC isn't a good idea, especially with PFtek.

To me it sounds like you're asking how to tell if a jar is room temperature, when you have the jar right in front of you and you can just touch it.  At least admit that sounds silly as fuck, when you're looking at it from the simplest point of view.

That's the final answer to your question.  When you can feel the jar and it isn't warmer than the air around it, you can use the jar.  No set amount of hours.


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22430367 - 10/25/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would say if its your first time, give it about an hour or so past once you think its fully cool. That should put your mind at ease man haha


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22430395 - 10/25/15 03:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What?  No!  Where are you getting this?

Open the PC when pressure drops to 0, or whenever the hell you feel like it after that point.  I take the jars out hot all the time to start a new PC cycle.  Just gotta use an oven mitt or thick rubber gloves to grab them usually.  I believe if you get them out while they're still hot it helps dry out the filters, whether that's dry verm or SFDs, either way, wet filters can fuck your shit, so letting them moisten up in a PC isn't a good idea, especially with PFtek.

To me it sounds like you're asking how to tell if a jar is room temperature, when you have the jar right in front of you and you can just touch it.  At least admit that sounds silly as fuck, when you're looking at it from the simplest point of view.

That's the final answer to your question.  When you can feel the jar and it isn't warmer than the air around it, you can use the jar.  No set amount of hours.




Damn, I honestly thought that after the 90mins of pressure cooking at 15psi that you had to leave the jars inside the PC overnight to cool down... How wrong could I be.

So you have to take the jars out straight away (when the pressure drops to 0) then inoculate the jars when they cool down at room temperature, obviously you would need to use oven mits to take them out of the pressure cooker as the jars will be very hot. (That's a given)
Damn, how wrong could I be, see, this is why I need to ask questions man, it's the basic shit that's so overlooked.


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: mushpunx]
    #22430397 - 10/25/15 03:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Mush.... your new set up is classy af... nice:seriousthumbsup:


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22430399 - 10/25/15 03:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't even know what the hell that thing in the 3rd pic in his sig is...


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22430401 - 10/25/15 03:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You don't HAVE to take them out right away, or I wouldn't have said "whenever the hell you want after that".  Anytime between when the pressure drops to 0 and 8 hours later is fine.  I just prefer sooner.

That's a flowhood in his sig.


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22430411 - 10/25/15 03:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Before you set me straight I was very confused, I was asking how the fuck are you suppose to tell when the jars are cool inside the PC, lol, that's what I was asking, it's a given when the jars, which once taken out of the PC after the pressure drops down to 0 or "whenever the hell you want after that" will be cooled down to room temperature. The whole "let it cool overnight" thing threw me way off track and confused me. Now I know, case closed :cool:


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22430417 - 10/25/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The jars stay hot for hours after the pressure drops.  I think it's just better for them to cool down somewhere where they can dry out a little in the process.  Assume the inside of the jar is 10 degrees hotter than the outside.  That's a huge margin for error so should help you decide when enough is enough.


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22430426 - 10/25/15 03:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So when people say "let the jars cool overnight" they mean take the jars out of the PC and let sit on a shelf overnight then inoculate in the morning to ensure that the jars are at room temp?


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22430430 - 10/25/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You're Killin me smalls...


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22430432 - 10/25/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's shit like this that's overlooked.
Make assumptions on overlooked information? I think not.


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22430434 - 10/25/15 03:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

DUDE.

I said it doesn't matter.  Cool in the PC, cool out of PC, cool on your moms dildo-filled treasure chest at the foot of her bed.

I just warned you that condensation build up from lack of gas exchange could soggy up a dry verm layer or a filter and let stuff through.  For some people that's not an issue.

You can do this shit 1000 ways, nobody has the time to detail them all.  If they were PC'd long enough to be sterilized, then you can fucking go to the circus for a weekend to visit your brothers and sisters before you open them or the PC, it doesn't matter.


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Re: PF BRF TEK pressure cooking question. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22430440 - 10/25/15 03:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Right, I've milked this one for all it's worth.
I think I get it now. Thank's again.:cheers:


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