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Ghost0420
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Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits?
#22429061 - 10/24/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do bigger sporeprints produce big mushrooms and small sporeprints produce smaller mushrooms?
Like say one sporeprint is 2inches wide, and one is 4inces wide, will the 2inch wide sporeprint produce 2inch wide mushrooms and the 4inch wide sporeprint produce 4inch wide mushrooms?
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22429067 - 10/24/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22429105 - 10/24/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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genetics have a play but environmental conditions cause more affects than you'd imagine. i've ran the same isolate multiple ways (different fruiting chambers, grow rooms, nutes, hole placement, fan/no fan, etc) and came up with wildly different results.
also, it's like a random lottery when working with spores. you never know what you're gonna get. i'm sure a smarter person could chime in and explain stabilizing genetics though.
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: LocN9ne] 1
#22429135 - 10/24/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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With the multiple spores from the print it would be like rolling the dice and seeing what fruits. The most surefire way to get large fruits is through cloning.
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Ghost0420
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Zymosis]
#22429516 - 10/24/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So the length of the sporeprint does not determine the length of the mushroom?
Would you prefer a big and light sporeprint or a small and dark sporeprint?
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22429631 - 10/24/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i wish it did
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LocN9ne
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22429640 - 10/24/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Again man...asking people's preferences is going to get you nothing...of course folks would rather have a dark print to work with...but once you start fucking with spore prints you should also be fucking with agar...once you are an agar beast it don't really matter all that much if it's a light print or a dark one...as long as there are some spores there it'll get the job done.
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22429770 - 10/24/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This question was serious?
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Ghost0420] 1
#22429817 - 10/24/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lost of fresh air gives bigger fruits
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: azur]
#22429912 - 10/24/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
azur said: Lost of fresh air gives bigger fruits
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: tripdawg420]
#22430112 - 10/24/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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so does a lack of fresh air

size of the fruits means nothing, it's final weight to worry about
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Inocuole]
#22430186 - 10/25/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said: This question was serious? 
YES!!!!!!!! I'm dead serious with all my questions. I'm not a damn troll!
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22430203 - 10/25/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bottom line fruits are easy to manipulate as they are very adaptive by nature so size should not be your goal your harvest is your goal
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: cronicr]
#22430237 - 10/25/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Let's say you grew two tubs IN THE SAME CONDITIONS and had two prints of the same strain, hypothetically.
Let's say one print was 4inches wide and light (had less spores overall). The other print was 2inches wide and dark (had more spores overall).
Would the 4inch sporeprint produce bigger fruits since the parent mushroom that produced the print was bigger??
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22430271 - 10/25/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It doesn't really work like that dude. When you grow from spores its like hitting the reset button. There are sooo many spores in both those caps, and all you need is 2...
Lets say you take an isolated strain, or a clone, and then take a spore print instead of growing from culture or taking tissue... itll reset.
If you want big mushrooms let your sub flush as many times as possible... those late flush mushrooms get huge! Consider this as well, a clone from a big fruit won't necessarily grow out a big fruit. See the tub in the pic? That Mexican cube clone tends to grow tiny mushrooms first flush. But that tub grew monsters on the 3rd flush.
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22430274 - 10/25/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That depends. If you are working with a stable variety than there is little genetic variation and it doesn't much matter which fruits you print. If you are starting with spores from a wild fruit or a culture produced by mixing spores from 2 varieties, the spores from larger fruits will priduce mord large fruits until you go threw a few generations and stabilize the genetics.
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: MudaFuka]
#22430963 - 10/25/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I prefer small light prints because it doesn't fucking matter in the least
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: cronicr]
#22431358 - 10/25/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
cronicr said: size of the fruits means nothing, it's final weight to worry about
ayyyyy 
What's that growing in your picture there?
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: cr1s1s]
#22432944 - 10/25/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Do larger sporeprints produce larger fruits? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22433047 - 10/25/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spore prints contain hundreds of strain varieties.
Its kinda like a cat litter, lots of variety in color, size, personality of kittens from one mother (the spore print)
Cloning gives u a more exact match of a large shroom. Cause its a copy or clone of that large fruit strain.
Sure, stabilized species will more likely have shrooms that look like its parent's characteristics, even from spore print.
But most of the time, spore prints make a "cat litter" of different shrooms.
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