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Toadstool5
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22434495 - 10/26/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I spawned it today with another clean looking jar at about a 2:3 ratio to CVG so it's too late now
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: Toadstool5]
#22436539 - 10/26/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think it'll be fine.
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: azur]
#22438340 - 10/26/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said: Oh there's definitely bacteria in there.
How can you tell this?
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azur
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: micro]
#22439096 - 10/27/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Look how thick and "gooey" it is
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: azur]
#22439222 - 10/27/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't see anything out of the ordinary 
Oh, well.
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: micro]
#22439253 - 10/27/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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And that is why i said most people on here have some bacteria and never know it.
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: azur]
#22439582 - 10/27/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've gotten it enough, but it was microscopic and tended not to form on the mycelium itself.
It also smelled bad :V
The tell-tale sign was usually uncolonized spots where it was overrun by the little fuckers.
I've seen myc that looks like those pics and there was no bacteria at the time.
Then again, I'm going off pictures so I could definitely be missing something.
Not to mention, if it's just substrate in there it's lacking that vermiculite barrier...
(not like i really trusted that method in the first place)
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Toadstool5
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: micro]
#22440807 - 10/27/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I assumed it was bacterial because my jars won't typically produce colored metabolites. I spawn before they start to mature and still look super white, and the other jar i did at the same time with the same agar plate and grains had no spots at all.
All these yellowish-brown spots were near the bottom where there's a little more moisture and less GE which also seems like the workings of a bacterial problem.
It wasn't bad enough to smell when i spawned so it should definitely work fine, maybe most people assume their spawn is bacteria free because they don't have issues fruiting it or smell it.
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: Toadstool5]
#22441026 - 10/27/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Regardless if you usually see it, I'm sure you know it can happen >.>
Bacteria won't grow off the mycelium itself. (disregarding blotch)
Maybe it could be a sign of neutralized bacteria, I just don't see anything that would indicate that.
I was just curious why people think some of this stuff is bacteria or whatever.
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: micro]
#22442267 - 10/27/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not to mention, if it's just substrate in there it's lacking that vermiculite barrier...
(not like i really trusted that method in the first place)
It's grain in his jar not brf, why would he have a vermiculite barrier with grains?
Just confused by what you meant, not picking your words apart for the sake of it.
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22442444 - 10/27/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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'sall good
vermiculite is inorganic so it won't decompose and is good for keeping in moisture
i know it is not always done but it seems like it could be beneficial in this respect
i guess this is in hindsight though, if the intention was g2g
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: micro]
#22445363 - 10/28/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Properly hydrated grain won't need a verm barrier to keep moisture in.
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Re: Can i get a second opinion on this? Bacterial grain? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22453893 - 10/30/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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darn, i missed my entire point when writing that, lol
it can also act as a contamination barrier
i'll go with both; it won't harm anything
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