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ID Request - A. Muscaria ?
    #22427478 - 10/24/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hi again :grin:
I found these today on steep grassland, with bushes and trees nearby. Are these A. Muscaria ? 
Eastern Europe ~1000m



                                               


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: reppc]
    #22427499 - 10/24/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: elprawn]
    #22427595 - 10/24/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I always thought these are deadly shrooms and I should not touch them. But some days ago, I read a post here and found out these are active. But do they actually do any harm ? Or is there a way to screw something up ? For some reason I'm afraid to eat these :rolleyes:


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: reppc]
    #22427618 - 10/24/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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reppc said:
I always thought these are deadly shrooms and I should not touch them. But some days ago, I read a post here and found out these are active. But do they actually do any harm ? Or is there a way to screw something up ? For some reason I'm afraid to eat these :rolleyes:



Do a LOT of research before you touch Muscaria and respect its potency. It's a very different feeling to psilocybes because it's a different chemical that is active (I think muscimol?) It will make you sick eaten raw so research very well first.


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #22427630 - 10/24/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks man, will do so.


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: reppc]
    #22427688 - 10/24/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think head shops have popularised them because they're legal to sell. At least in England, anyway. I've never taken them but I've read they're very different to psilocybes and the consensus from some seem to be drying them in the oven until they're cracker-dry -- this helps convert ibotenic acid to muscimol, reducing the chance of sickness.


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: reppc]
    #22427870 - 10/24/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Where I live all amanita are called death caps even though the deadly ones are white, green, and light yellow. There is a huge stigma against them because of this so there really is no need to regulate them and the effects are so light that they are generally not used for recreation. I like them but prefer to dose 1gram a day though in a few days I am going to try to stay awake through 12g for shits and giggles. They are active, but have a very light effect compared to Psilocybin of course since potency can very my experience could be different when ever you find a new batch you should dry them not exceeding temp of 180, grind them, and then try 1 gram to see how strong they are. My exp apart from one time with light visuals has been enhanced mood, feeling light, feeling heavy, or feeling tingly. dosage is 1-4g light 5-8 med and 8-10 heavy I have read 15 grams can kill you. I do not really notice that much of a difference between doses other than higher doses will make you crash. The drug acts as a sedative so think of a painkiller. I don't know if head shops have them here in the U.S. but only 2 states have outlawed them. I like to take advantage of every tool nature offers otherwise I would probably just leave them though I can easily see medicinal uses for them.


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: ShadowRunner] * 1
    #22427888 - 10/24/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, so consuming too much will surely cause death ?:eek:


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: reppc]
    #22427925 - 10/24/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

These are dried grams so you would really have to try to kill yourself even if it was accurate. Generally one dried mushroom is like 1-2 grams.


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: ShadowRunner]
    #22427928 - 10/24/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Consuming too much of anything will cause death...


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: ShadowRunner]
    #22427940 - 10/24/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Seriously ? But some of these are big, palm sized maybe. Do they "shrink" to 1-2g ?


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: reppc]
    #22427952 - 10/24/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yea I found a huge patch the other day I think I had 13 and it dried to like 20g


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: reppc]
    #22427996 - 10/24/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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reppc said:
I always thought these are deadly shrooms and I should not touch them. But some days ago, I read a post here and found out these are active. But do they actually do any harm ? Or is there a way to screw something up ? For some reason I'm afraid to eat these :rolleyes:




I have eaten it (dried) and I do not recommend it. Outdoors, NEVER eat a fresh A muscuria, very toxic and dangerous with high ibotenic acid (neurotoxic). They are dried to reduce the idotenic acid into muscimol which is the active, but may still have trace ibotenic acid.

It acts on the GABA system and thus causes slight delirium and reduces ability to form memories like with alcohol but the psych effect is unremarkable. Hard to remember much the next day.


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Re: ID Request - A. Muscaria ? [Re: Mushiez]
    #22428090 - 10/24/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Makes a good fly trap/poison, the effects are muy mal kinda like a black magic vibe. They sure are beautiful though.


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