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are you worried about developing HPPD?
    #22426796 - 10/24/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I read a bit on the hppdonline forum and I really feel sorry for people struggling so much. I'm new to psychedelics, have done them 6 times so far, but reading those stories about HPPD suffering made me feel like maybe I'm taking a risk continuing using mushrooms?

I've noticed that sometimes I get very mild Visuals even when sober. It might just be psychologically and maybe not real and I don't experience any lack of function because of it and it's only 1 thing in my room (a postcard) that I have those mild Visuals with. But I think if I contiune using mushrooms even only once in a while I may put myself at risk?

Your thoughts? Are you scared of developing this condition?


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #22426816 - 10/24/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

lol stop smoking weed then.


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: happyshroomer123] * 1
    #22426833 - 10/24/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

After a few years of tripping often I developed persistent visuals that wouldn't go away.  Carpets always crawled, I'd always see patterns when I closed my eyes and many other things.  Never really bothered me much.  The more you focus on something obviously the worse it will seem and get, so don't put much energy into it.

After a few years of toning down the tripping it all went away.  Honestly I miss it, shit was more interesting when all white walls would  constantly be shifting with different colors and the pavement would form patterns into different figures.


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: SleepyE]
    #22426837 - 10/24/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

but to answer your question no, i dont think HPPD is something to even remotely worry about. Personally ive done a shit load and i mean it, a shit load of powerful psychedelics and have zero HPPD. fuck i wish i did.

i just smoke weed these days, but im thinking about having an oral dmt trip sometime in the future, its a great creativity zap.


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: SleepyE]
    #22426842 - 10/24/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

HPPD is always only temporary. mine was seeing faces in everything in my peripherals. shit was jokes.


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: SleepyE]
    #22426878 - 10/24/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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but to answer your question no, i dont think HPPD is something to even remotely worry about. Personally ive done a shit load and i mean it, a shit load of powerful psychedelics and have zero HPPD. fuck i wish i did.

i just smoke weed these days, but im thinking about having an oral dmt trip sometime in the future, its a great creativity zap.




Thanks but what about the ppl on those forums who say they suffer enormously as a result?

Vast majority of visiuals I have during trips stops when it's worn off. It's only when I really stare at the postcard that I (think) the clouds are a bit moving. Maybe I'm too obsessive (I have OCD)


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #22426917 - 10/24/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

suffering is a big word.

are you really suffering because youre seeing faces in your peripherals?

having a real mental disorder like OCD is suffering. People that claim their suffering from HPPD have too much time on their hands imo :lol:

youve taken a psychedelic and now you see things differently. What did they expect to happen?

that the brain wouldnt remember how it saw things and attempt to recreate it.?


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: SleepyE]
    #22426970 - 10/24/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not suffering at the moment, but I just wonder how much time I need in between trips in order for minimizing the risk of developing adverse reactions?

Trips so far were:

mexicana truffels, 15g
mexicana 1 week later
atlantis truffels 2 weekq later
atlantis again one week later
cubensis 3g one month later
cubensis 3g few days after
atlantis truffles 6 weeks later


I want to limit my use to once a month or maybe less, would that be a good frequency?

I know I sound obsessive but I can't help it having OCD and the shrooms keep my symtoms under control. My OCD has improved a lot lately.


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: fungusmuncher]
    #22426981 - 10/24/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The more you focus on something obviously the worse it will seem and get, so don't put much energy into it.





:whathesaid:

this is 100%, when you dont think about it or pay attention to it, you dont re-enforce the creation of this visual effect so it goes away.

i had the faces in my peripheral thing for months without using psychedelics because i was focusing on it, largely for amusement, but when i forgot about it, it went away.

the mind is definitely interesting. :strokebeard:


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: SleepyE]
    #22426994 - 10/24/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

psychedelic tryptamines are a promising treatment for OCD, because if done right you can actually train your mind to function like it does on psilocybin so your able to trash intrusive thoughts easier.


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #22427004 - 10/24/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I want to limit my use to once a month or maybe less, would that be a good frequency?

I know I sound obsessive but I can't help it having OCD and the shrooms keep my symtoms under control. My OCD has improved a lot lately.



its not necessary but if it makes you feel better go ahead.:ganja:


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: SleepyE]
    #22427018 - 10/24/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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psychedelic tryptamines are a promising treatment for OCD, because if done right you can actually train your mind to function like it does on psilocybin so your able to trash intrusive thoughts easier.




definitely agree and more effective than SSRIs in my opinion without the side effects and noly needs to be taken occasionally


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: SleepyE]
    #22427023 - 10/24/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

but usually its a good idea to limit it to monthly.

id be far more concerned about your pattern recognition going into overdrive which is a REAL issue.

but im not sure how much it takes to make this happen to someone but with large amounts frequency it can definitely pop this oozing cherry.


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: SleepyE]
    #22427065 - 10/24/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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but usually its a good idea to limit it to monthly.

id be far more concerned about your pattern recognition going into overdrive which is a REAL issue.

but im not sure how much it takes to make this happen to someone but with large amounts frequency it can definitely pop this oozing cherry.




yes want to limit it to montly use, I notice new users are Always keen to do it again soon after first experience, but they may limit their use once they are more experienced?

Tripping weekly was fun for a while but not sth I want to continue.


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #22427103 - 10/24/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yeah for your situation use it strictly monthly or even longer if you can hold out. can go wrong with that.

I myself can only afford to do it maybe twice a year, strictly because im pretty busy working on stuff, but also its good this way so i dont overdrive my patterny mind :smile:


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: SleepyE]
    #22428554 - 10/24/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not worried


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: filthyknees]
    #22428688 - 10/24/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: SleepyE]
    #22429479 - 10/24/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I see random flashes of light in my peripherals regularly throughout my days, random ringing in a single ear out of nowhere occasionally, but nothing that can't be acclimated to. I think my shit was more caused by sustaining tripping every day or so for a solid year, and a bit less for the next couple years, I didn't really have any of those symptoms in the middle of the period of usage just all these years after.

Just gotta roll with it if it happens, it's nothing to fear, I think the fear of pro-longed hallucinations will cripple your quality of life more than the actual hallucinations themselves.

I wouldn't ever wish to permatrip, but man if I could force myself to start full on tripping, that would be glorious. I'd be way less productive at work :smile:


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Re: are you worried about developing HPPD? [Re: c1dh3d]
    #22430231 - 10/25/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hey, Cid, nice to see you posting again..  I have what you describe, only I don't attribute it to HPPD. It just seems to be one of those things that happen to humans as they age. Personally, I consider it "normal" for me.

To answer the OP's concern though, no I don't worry about developing HPPD, but my use of psychedelics is and always has been modest in dosage, although It has involved many different molecules.

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