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OfflinePatlal
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Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets...
    #22426371 - 10/24/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Right in front of my house too...

Ticket 1:
Speeding: 81km/h in a 50km/h zone.... 31 over: 226$

Ticket 2:
Failure to show insurance paper: 65$

Ticket 3:
Failure to show car ownership: 110$


So ticket 1, he caught me... But it's a street where everybody goes 80 on. 4 lanes... I just got caught. He could have been lenient...

Ticket 2 and 3: Turns out my papers were in my glove bo like I thought they were. I just didn't find them.... Once the arrest was done I found them (of course)......

Essentially I'm contesting everything and see what happens.... The way insurance works up here nowadays isn't the amount of points that determine if the premium goes up. It's the amount of tickets recieved. Tthe dude gave me 3 separate tickets.... Also, he wanted to give me one because i wasn't wearing my glasses. I had laser surgery 10 years ago.... Apparently I forgot about it.... But hey, lucky me. he decided to be lenient...

Sigh.... I'll have to negociate with the Crown and strike a deal of some kind. Cancel ticket 2 and 3 for sure. I had my fucking papers... And I'm gonna try and get the seeping ticket cut down to 21 overr instead of 31 and in exchange I'll tell them I'm willing to pay 175 or 200$ (which is more than a regular 21 over)... Do you think they'll accept my terms?


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22426379 - 10/24/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

81km/h in a residential area? 31 over? You should be flogged.



This is 32 km/h


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Asante] * 2
    #22426388 - 10/24/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its not residential.... It a 4 lane main artery...


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22426397 - 10/24/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Trudeau


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22426406 - 10/24/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Its not residential.... It a 4 lane main artery...




You have a 4 lane road in front of your house?


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: koods] * 2
    #22426408 - 10/24/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There's nothing to contest, you couldn't present the information when asked, anyone can go home and claim they always had it.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: qman]
    #22426413 - 10/24/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: qman]
    #22426416 - 10/24/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Naw. I was driving with an expired license. I got a new one and the case was dismissed.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Asante]
    #22426423 - 10/24/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Its not residential.... It a 4 lane main artery...




You have a 4 lane road in front of your house?




Unfortunetly yes. My side is residential the other side is commercial. I was 23 years old when I bought this. I got it at a wicked price.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22426441 - 10/24/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I got my first ever speeding ticket a couple weeks ago. 62 kph in a 40, reduced to 55 which meant no points. Ordinarily I don't really speed much but it's kind of a ridiculously low limit for that spot. It's a steep hill down to a valley of forested park. You would have to brake heavily the whole way down to go 40, and virtually nobody does this. 2 or 3 days to the end of the month, I guess they had a quota to fill.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22426446 - 10/24/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ack, sucks, sorry to hear that. I hope you have double pane glass (in Canada you probably do though) for noise reduction.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22426526 - 10/24/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

it seems like you could be totally in the wrong and still get a ticket reduced just by showing up to dispute it. state doesn't want to put time/money into such a trivial he said she said type of dispute

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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: qman]
    #22426552 - 10/24/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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There's nothing to contest, you couldn't present the information when asked, anyone can go home and claim they always had it.





Noooooooope.  It's easy to prove you had it.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22426561 - 10/24/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would go to the police station and show the officer your papers.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22426623 - 10/24/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Get an adjournment. Then if you can, get another one, and perhaps another if possible.

From what I've read, delaying as much as you can will improve your odds of having it all dismissed.

I got a speeding ticket, then managed to get an adjournment a few weeks before the date, so it was delayed. It was almost a year between when I got the ticket and when I actually had to show up for court. When I did show up, the cop said he wasn't notified that there was an adjournment, and he wasn't prepared, so he dismissed the case against me.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: DTCharlieB] * 1
    #22426635 - 10/24/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
There's nothing to contest, you couldn't present the information when asked, anyone can go home and claim they always had it.





Noooooooope.  It's easy to prove you had it.




But from the original post it looks like the charge is failure to show it, not failure to have it.  Whether he had it or not he failed to show it.  I once got cited for failure to have insurance, I showed the judge that I was in fact insured at the time, I just didn't have the card in my car.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22426703 - 10/24/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Driving tickets are so gay.

Hope u can talk your way out of it. $400 is a lot of Canadian coin (i think).


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #22426710 - 10/24/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Get an adjournment. Then if you can, get another one, and perhaps another if possible.

From what I've read, delaying as much as you can will improve your odds of having it all dismissed.

I got a speeding ticket, then managed to get an adjournment a few weeks before the date, so it was delayed. It was almost a year between when I got the ticket and when I actually had to show up for court. When I did show up, the cop said he wasn't notified that there was an adjournment, and he wasn't prepared, so he dismissed the case against me.




If that doesn't work, sending a multi-page discovery to the prosecutor usually does the trick.  But I haven't had to resort to that one because the adjournment process above ALWAYS WORKS.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: abltsandwich]
    #22426976 - 10/24/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I called my step dad (cop for 25 years).

He said I can easily only be stuck payng half of the tickets... He'll tell me what to do step by step when he has time. I should be fine.

Still sucks.... I was less than 200 feet from my house. Can you believe it????


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22427000 - 10/24/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I went like 10 over the limit ON A HWY and im dealing with a $400 speeding ticket.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22427003 - 10/24/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Couldn't you like say Sorry to the cop? :grin:


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Asante]
    #22427059 - 10/24/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I was soo godamm tired I didn't even try to argue anything....


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22428246 - 10/24/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just to add to the fucking horrible day.

I decided to go to the restaurant to get my mind of this shit So I went to to an all-you-can-eat buffet place I normally go.

I get there, they took out the entire buffet, switched the entire thing a la carte, took out 75% of their item and replaced them with low quality sushi stuff that is far from being up to par with a regular sushi place.... It took me like an hour instead of like 20 mins and finally cherry on top, instead of the regular 13$ they charged me 27$..... Fuckers. Fucking robbery.

I was so pissed off that for the first time in my life I raised my voice at the cashier... Shame on me...

I want to kill everybody now.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22428271 - 10/24/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

First world problems.  :cookiemonster:


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: qman] * 1
    #22428289 - 10/24/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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First world problems.  :cookiemonster:




Dude. It's just not my fucking day...

Like I try my best to scratch every penny to save up and then shit like this happens...


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22428292 - 10/24/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Right in front of my house too...

Ticket 1:
Speeding: 81km/h in a 50km/h zone.... 31 over: 226$




my last speeding ticket was 15mph over and it was $400... that was 15 years ago

Quote:

Ticket 2:
Failure to show insurance paper: 65$

Ticket 3:
Failure to show car ownership: 110$




fucking neanderthals. havent they heard of a computer

in the US I dont have to prove who owns a car, they can run the tag or the vin
number and learn that info, unless of course it was recently purchased, unless
it's reported stolen I shouldnt have to prove ownership





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Do you think they'll accept my terms?





no... they're going to rape you and double the fines


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22428325 - 10/24/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Ticket 2 and 3: Turns out my papers were in my glove bo like I thought they were. I just didn't find them.... Once the arrest was done I found them (of course)......




I always just shove the little folder with those two things into the ashtray drawer. Nothing else in there so it's always easy to get at.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22428351 - 10/24/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I was less than 200 feet from my house. Can you believe it????




my step father got a DUI pulling the car from part of our yard, into the road and
then into the driveway. there's a hundred times he should have had a DUI and didnt
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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22430605 - 10/25/15 05:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

One (weed) ticket here costs more than all of those together.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22430616 - 10/25/15 06:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Patlal, you yelled at a cashier because you ate 27$ worth of sushi without noticing the price?  Pull it together, man.  That's shitty.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #22430673 - 10/25/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Canadian dollars, even.


CAN$ 27 = €18,61

Thats even less than the minimum our main Sushi restaurant asks for free delivery.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Asante]
    #22430767 - 10/25/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yup, just go to your court case and represent your story if you got the time off work. Youl likely save some bucks, lose some charges and really save on insurance. If your REALLY lucky the cop wont even be there. But at least you could get the latter 2 charges taken away and the first reduced.:peace:

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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #22430879 - 10/25/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal, you yelled at a cashier because you ate 27$ worth of sushi without noticing the price?  Pull it together, man.  That's shitty.




I know

:aweman:

I didn't yell, I just raised my voice a bit and walked out...


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22430889 - 10/25/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Did you tip? :grin:

You didnt say sorry to the cop and yelled at the cashier. My image of Canadians is tarnished!


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Asante]
    #22430896 - 10/25/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you tip? :grin:




Fuck no... I was way too pissed off.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Asante]
    #22431074 - 10/25/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Canadian dollars, even.


CAN$ 27 = €18,61

Thats even less than the minimum our main Sushi restaurant asks for free delivery.




Damn... I have never spent more than that on a dish ever in my entire life.  $20US on a dish?  Y'all are rich.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: DieCommie]
    #22431140 - 10/25/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

no you're misreading that :smile: €20 for free delivery. :smile:

Also, bear in mind that most things you buy in most places in europe are weighted down with +21% VAT tax. We got an awesome "buy four, pay five" thing going here courtesy of our government so they can bail out banks and line their own pockets.

Dont you eat in posh restaurants? A main course in a cheap restaurant here easily is $20, without all the rest.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Asante]
    #22431423 - 10/25/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Dont you eat in posh restaurants? A main course in a cheap restaurant here easily is $20, without all the rest.




Absolutely not.  I can't afford that, restaurants destroy finances.  I live on a strict, tight budget and still go more into debt every year. :shrug:  On the rare occasion I go to a restaurant or cafe I don't spend more than $10US per person.  Really, even that is too much for an average family to be spending per person on a meal.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: DieCommie]
    #22431427 - 10/25/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't eat in posh restaurants either, for the record.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Asante]
    #22431691 - 10/25/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've gotten lucky I think lately with regards to tickets.

Well sort of, I got pulled over for speeding after i had already made it to work, was inside my job working for like 6 min before a coworker gets me and says theres some cops that want to talk to me.

Get outside and there is like 5 cop cars surrounding my car, he asks if I was speeding to which I replied "I dont think so.." (i definitely was) and wrote me a ticket.

Never went to the court date, got pulled over again a month later, half expecting a warrant from not going to court..no warrant, another speeding ticket, missed court again, and still no warrant or anything.

Also i've found pleading not guilty to whatever charge, even if you are guilty, helps get you out of some tickets.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: koods]
    #22438487 - 10/27/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I would go to the police station and show the officer your papers.




They gave me 24 hours to show up to the station with insurance when I was caught without it. He might have just been nice to me though and that was a long time ago.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22438501 - 10/27/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

or you could go to the doctor or something and get a piece of paper that proves you arn't fit to drive at all, so then there is no need for proof of insurence because you arn't supposed to be driving so then can't write you a ticket for it because u couldn't even get insurence if u tried


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22438523 - 10/27/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

See in America one ticket can often be 200-400$


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #22439259 - 10/27/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'll just negociate or suggest i do community service or some shit. I can't take the financial hit right now.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22439271 - 10/27/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

in america $400 is alot of community service hours especially if you work or you could do the time which also fucks over your work:shrug: jus go there and get it reduced


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22439282 - 10/27/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
in america $400 is alot of community service hours especially if you work or you could do the time which also fucks over your work:shrug: jus go there and get it reduced




I fully expect to to do my community work at 50$ an hour :snub:


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22439368 - 10/27/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

you just bring the license and the insurance to the court and they reduce the fine to something like 20$. at least that's what happens here.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Black_Sunset]
    #22439505 - 10/27/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Canada is a police state


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #22439523 - 10/27/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Traffic tickets is tax revenue, I thought Canadians believe in paying their taxes.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22439539 - 10/27/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'll just negociate or suggest i do community service or some shit. I can't take the financial hit right now.





In america even if you cant pay the fine will just increase till they put you in jail.  But that doesnt erase the fine now you have to pay even more.  Set up a payment plan get charged 5-10 in "fees" every time you pay.  You can be essentially sent to debtors prison for a speeding ticket or even a parking ticket.

Man up take the hit dont fight it cause here in america if you fight it and lose you have to pay court cost in addition to the increase in the fine.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22439575 - 10/27/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'll just negociate or suggest i do community service or some shit. I can't take the financial hit right now.




Do you have traffic ticket lawyers up north?
Every moving violation I've ever received has been contested by such a lawyer.
The outcome every time was $59 for the lawyer service, ~$100 in court fees. Obviously much less than the price of the tickets.

More importantly, if you contest it in court and you win, you won't receive any points on your license. Again, I don't even know if Canada does a points system but if so you should really look into going the traffic lawyer route.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: kr0nik0]
    #22440052 - 10/27/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We have points but what worries me is the impact on the indurance premium.

The premium goes up after like 4 tickets. The points reset after 2 years


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22440465 - 10/27/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You won't receive any points on your license if you have a lawyer contest it and win. No points equals no insurance premium rise as the infractions have been dismissed.

Again, it may be different where you live.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22440665 - 10/27/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You lucky bitch. Those same fines here would probably go over 1k easy.

I'm not sure how it works in Canoodia, but here you can choose to take "driver improvement courses".. even online... it's more money you have to pay but it either reduces the points that goes on your license or doesn't put any points at all, depending on the ticket. You still have to pay the tickets. This varies state to state here so who the fuck knows how Canoodia works.
Or lawyer up but that costs more than your tickets unless you have one in your back pocket.

Alternately you could try showing up to court to fight it, and if the cop doesn't show up they may drop it completely.
Again.. Canada.. so maybe they don't do that.. but if they did the cop would probably show up. It's Canada after all, it's not like he'll be too busy shooting people.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Shroomism]
    #22440959 - 10/27/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You can contest. If you want the officer to be there you tick the box requiring him to be there.

Here you can pretty much negociate with the Crown. There are many ways to get out of paying for a ticket. As long as the dude agrees.

No lawyers needed.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Patlal]
    #22440983 - 10/27/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well shit then, do that. Make the dude agree. Maybe you can convince them you are an upstanding Canadian citizen and you can instead just work at a maple syrup farm for a couple days.

Just think.. free maple syrup.


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Re: Just got a 400$ worth of traffic tickets... [Re: Shroomism]
    #22441123 - 10/27/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's probably gonna be shit like scrubbing grffiti or picking trash or some shit


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