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sun child



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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: desant]
#22427992 - 10/24/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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awwesome 
i applaud you - as ever. i have never smoked one, other than a tiny bit, but am happy you are happy 
as always... very strongly evolved empathic sense in this one. i can tell you for sure.
i experimented with it as a stimulant briefly, it does work - but it is short-acting... only a few minutes, it very much seems to be.
namaste; peace and love, J.
otherwise for me, once in a blue moon--- reeally blue moon, lol 
i will partake of an American Spirit or something like that--
and, as mentioned, it is sacred for many peace ceremonies among the First People;
and holy -
so if there is the opportunity.... an inipi , sweat lodge , is wonderful,
etc.
love and peace, J.
-------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog large . . music garden . . veryall peace them hiStarhouse - main Time Traveler's Guide
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Jufin


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once in a lifetime said: because two of my ancestors died from it - and currently, two more are basically, utterly lost to it-- more so, how it is pushed on our young - in colleges, in shows, in materialist culture, etc... fortunately; naturally, the tide has turned, long ago...
yep it has its time and place - sure. am not saying it does not. yet it is considered the most dangerous hard drug by some...
and a hard drug by all reliable information i have ever seen on the subject-- as well as my own experience.
one shot of whiskey - or one toke of a joint... it is utterly insane to say the latter is more harmful;
and the fact that our laws reflect this insane view -- this is, to my understanding, the primary cause of many if not most of our problems.
Especially when you add in the fact, that marijuana is not simply 'softer'- it is actually divine, healing, sacred, and blissful-- given to us by mother earth, and sacred.
But it's all subjective. Weed makes me fall apart, scattered into a thousand pieces, unable to defend myself or even remember how to act.
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Asante
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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: Jufin]
#22430582 - 10/25/15 05:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sin..
CARNIVORE - Angry Neurotic Catholics
I'm suffering from depression The anger turned within What do I gain for all my pain Perhaps a seat in heaven? Don't do what you want Do what you're taught is right Your life is built on paranoia and guilt Don't forget your valium tonight The agony I must endure My mind is painful and swells The punishment for what I've done Is forever the pains of hell How come what is natural Has to be a sin? Why would God give me this urge If I cannot give in? They say don't give up That Jesus loves me I went down into my basement Confused and depressed Put Black Sabbath on Razor blade in hand A Wilkinson I think Ten slashes on each arm My only wrongdoing Was being born human And following my instincts I never was happy I never was sane So I shall be extinct The growing pool of crimson At last I am pure Witness my sanguineous penance I don't need anyone My soul's been set free Death is total independence Stand up straight Stomach in Shoulders back Sound off Angry Neurotic Catholics It's a sin Angry Neurotic Catholics It's a sin
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sun child



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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: Asante]
#22430660 - 10/25/15 06:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yep , beloved Jufin - we are each unique; so each person should live and partake of what they feel is good, healthful, and makes them happy.
peace and love, J.
-------------------- Innocent, Oldfield & Hegerland Julia Delaney, Bothy Band Rasta Girl, Sister Carol Genesis, Jorma K I Wish You Peace, Lawrence Laughing Do Your Thing, Moondog large . . music garden . . veryall peace them hiStarhouse - main Time Traveler's Guide
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champinhom
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Re: Is consuming nicotine a sin? [Re: desant]
#22434521 - 10/26/15 01:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sinful? No. Assinine? Yes.
-------------------- My father used to say: I don't care what else you do in life, just don't be an asshole. People, forgive me when I forget what my daddy said. Cut back the proliferating list of people whose opinions can hurt you. Unless they have done or want to do you some good, their views are just not worth tracking. Saul Bellow “People are just cannibals unless they leave each other alone.” Doris Lessing Those whom the gods would save, they dower with compassion. Mr. P. Silocybin
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Re: Is consuming nicotine a sin? [Re: desant]
#22434691 - 10/26/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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desant said: (i think i made a thread about this a while ago but it got lost in translation and i cant find it)
Mark Twain said: if smoking not allowed in heaven - im not coming.
Great philosophers smoke: Robert Wilson used to smoke a pipe.
Great spiritualists also smoke - A. Crowley and Robert Bruce.
Great anarchists smoke - Alex Jones i been told smokes like a chimney after doing a show.
Even Great Shroomists smoke e cigs! Shroomism!
BUT, certain spiritual entities keep telling me not to smoke tobacco for it slows down my spiritual progress...
What gives?? 
It says in the scriptures that we are all sinners, unable to reach the goals that God has expected us to reach. And since we are no better than the other, God wants us to humble ourselves, not exalting, claiming to be better than the others. And so if anyone offends or offensive to you, you must not be offended, because you are exalting yourself over them, and which it says,"whom exalted themselves over others, will become humble or you can say that they will be brought down low to their knees. But if you feel as if something inside of you telling you to stop, then you are being work on into becoming perfect by the spirit; because we are unable to make ourselves into becoming perfect, and so He is giving us His spirit so that we can have a heart like His.
Isaiah 4:4 The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.
John 16:8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment:
Acts 1:5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”
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champinhom
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Douglas Howard said:
It says in the scriptures that we are all sinners, unable to reach the goals that God has expected us to reach. And since we are no better than the other, God wants us to humble ourselves, not exalting, claiming to be better than the others. And so if anyone offends or offensive to you, you must not be offended, because you are exalting yourself over them, and which it says,"whom exalted themselves over others, will become humble or you can say that they will be brought down low to their knees. But if you feel as if something inside of you telling you to stop, then you are being work on into becoming perfect by the spirit; because we are unable to make ourselves into becoming perfect, and so He is giving us His spirit so that we can have a heart like His.
Isaiah 4:4 The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.
John 16:8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment:
Acts 1:5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”
Beware of the man of one book--Thomas Aquinas
-------------------- My father used to say: I don't care what else you do in life, just don't be an asshole. People, forgive me when I forget what my daddy said. Cut back the proliferating list of people whose opinions can hurt you. Unless they have done or want to do you some good, their views are just not worth tracking. Saul Bellow “People are just cannibals unless they leave each other alone.” Doris Lessing Those whom the gods would save, they dower with compassion. Mr. P. Silocybin
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