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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: desant] * 2
    #22426809 - 10/24/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Even the evil Hitler forbade smoking in his Führer-bunker. Hitler is known to have read books on Aryan occultism (i.e., Yoga) and he did not want his Subtle Body coarsened by the influences in tobacco smoke. Aside from the Volkswagen, this is the only other endorsement of good that I can site regarding Hitler. Tobacco is a deadly poison on top of which it is highly addictive to most of its users. This combination of facts which can be reduced to disease-death-slavery should answer your question. It is completely obvious to me. I probably did not appreciate being filled with toxins and Carbon monoxide while in-utero to a cigarette-smoking mother. I've hated the smell of tobacco ever since.


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: desant]
    #22426823 - 10/24/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

personally i like to avoid addictions and dependencies as these limit one's freedom

in that sense alone, tobacco (or nicotine in e-cigs) is something I would personally avoid

but of course it's up to you and what you want your life to be :smile:


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: deff]
    #22426834 - 10/24/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ergh. Ugh. No. Lol. All good. This coming from who publicly endorses a hard drug-- as safe more than holy cannabis?

heh.

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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22426840 - 10/24/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The word you are looking for is 'cite.'

Anyway, Namaste,

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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22426848 - 10/24/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

who endorses a hard drug? :smile:


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: deff]
    #22426852 - 10/24/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Mtg -

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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22426855 - 10/24/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

oh :grin: thought you were replying to me and i was confused :smile:


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: deff]
    #22426859 - 10/24/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

nope- i haven't ever seen you endorse the drug that killed my grandparents, and has all but slain my two living parents.

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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22426864 - 10/24/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

and kills so many every day.... while somehow thinking sacred herb, healing planet, is less beautiful, healthful- somehow less than okay.


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22426889 - 10/24/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

rofl rofl rofl rofl :laugh:

rofl rofl rofl rofl


sorry for the rofl's

sorry to be negative about it-


i'm just not happy about that right now.


i'm happy - just not happy about that.  how much VAST PAIN AND DARKNESS comes from that-- and


yeah.

lol.


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: MarkostheGnostic] * 1
    #22426891 - 10/24/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The Nazis invented the modern anti smoking campaign.



The ad reads: "Its not like he eats them - they eat him! - the chainsmoker"


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: Asante]
    #22426894 - 10/24/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you.


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22426901 - 10/24/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You're welcome!


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: Asante]
    #22426904 - 10/24/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Best friend.

:heart:

:sun:

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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22426979 - 10/24/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anyway, no, there is certainly no spiritual harm in partaking of tobacco.




By that once in a lifetime, u also include e cigs?


Quote:

The only related point is that a certain amount of suffering goes into everything we partake of




That is very intelligent ideology.


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: desant]
    #22426988 - 10/24/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes - nice timing, by the way.  As nearly as I can tell, the very same second as my previous post.

All my love, kindness, and friendship;

Yours always,
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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22426992 - 10/24/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
Tobacco is a deadly poison





Dude u missing the point.

We are not talking about ordinary cigarettes we are talking about E cigs! Which is entirely different story.

It helps to read the entire thread before posting a reply :wink:


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: desant]
    #22427016 - 10/24/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There is not much point in trying to share calmness and reason with someone who brings up that nameless person of fear in a simple discussion of

understanding basic things. :sun:

Still - done in much love and much valued as always :sun:

So much light, so much peace, so much beauty, so much love.

Peace and light-
J.


You are the best, desant.

:manofapproval:

:earth:
:peace:
:pipesmoke:

:sunny:



For and always - am always grateful; more than I could express in words.... Strength and light :heart:

:sun:


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #22427032 - 10/24/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
Tobacco is a deadly poison on top of which it is highly addictive to most of its users.





There! I edited the thread title to clear all the confusion. We are not talking about physical health here, we talking about spiritual health.


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Re: Is smoking tobacco a sin? [Re: desant]
    #22427046 - 10/24/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yep-o...  one of the beautiful things Viv shared was - there is no sin, only error.

And- - often we learn more from mistakes, heh. :sun:

anyway.
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