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Black witches and psychic attacks
    #22426011 - 10/24/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

After reading THIS :

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10654137/fpart/1

thread i wanted to start a new one because its 6 years old and long abandoned.

Who here ever been psychically attacked or met a witch?

I am very concerned Mr Muscaria refused to defend himself calling the defence "black magick" too...

What do you think? If your psychically attacked, would u fight back?


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: desant] * 1
    #22426292 - 10/24/15 09:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Love alone overcomes Schadenfreude


- to adopt or adapt a phrase from the Dhammapada.  That word means-- taking pleasure at others' unhappiness.


To overcome such is very easy.... Primarily because those who separate themselves from love, light, peace, beauty, and so forth,


Are simply rejecting the source of life, strength, peacefulness, and the rest--- They are cutting themselves off from Earth, and they do not grow in the same way;


They do not develop in the same way; they do not become healthful, strong, peaceful, kind, happy, or any other of the -- infinitely beneficial -- good spiritual qualities.


As such - Love alone is our response...  Hold your ground firmly, but do not attack back -- Stand strong, and you will overcome.


Love alone overcomes-- loving-kindness, peace; and so forth-- Stay strong- Stay true; you will succeed.


These are the important things to remember.


The Bodhisattva path of love, peace, and gentleness -- this is the holy life, the pure love,


The goodness, innocence, beauty -- and strength, peacefulness, and power -- of all souls.





It is far stronger - far more beneficial, and far more effective than those who are lost.





It takes a while--- It takes a good while - to get to the point, where, one understands the kind of love,


that withstands such people --  and , I would also put it htis way; there are Magicians of Light, etc.


And there are magicians of dark --- Yet the former are always stronger, more powerful than the latter,


This is important to keep in mind!!!  Ultimately -- All are connected, and so forth-



Take shelter in love, peace, truthfulness -- above all, truthfulness -- and you will be safe, always.


Nothing - no one - can ever harm you, if you take shelter in love.



Consider the mosquito analogy.  Anyway -- all my h'art, yours always, dear friend --


Am glad you are safe and well, always,


With love,
J.


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: once in a lifetime] * 1
    #22428323 - 10/24/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've been attacked yes and I backed down. I don't want to get in a conflict like that, its smelly.


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: Asante]
    #22428364 - 10/24/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Prevention is always the best medicine.  Will write more soon.  For instance, if one starts a war, it's not always easy to stop - but easy if prevented. before it ever started.

for instance.  one could start a war with a few words-- then, subsequent actions, such as, perhaps, waving one's arms in the air- would be unable to stop what had been started.

so it's silly and silly that some people still hang on to the false meme that 'actions are more real than words.'

words are more real, effect the world more - but both are, in a sense, acting in the same reality...

Anyway, So much gladness, :smile:

Peace and love,
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da Vinci wrote about how a slight cause - creates large effects, etc... and the butterfly effect. Understanding these things is part of how we can understand magic, and how the world is inter-connected in ways that aren't apparent at first.

Love and peace,
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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22428388 - 10/24/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i remember mention... of a long-distance past... sometimes between Taoists wizards and Tibetan yogis, etc...

anyway, ya.

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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: desant] * 1
    #22431068 - 10/25/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If its a group targeting you don't engage, don't let them know its working, don't even let them know your aware.

Seek friends and get away from it all, even if the friends don't understand or share your beliefs. They don't even need to be aware of your issue, in fact most people are stronger when operating subconsciously. Just being with them and enjoying yourselves will provide comfort and relief. Participate in activities that distract you from the whole situation and promote love and bonding, a vacation of sorts. The attacks will fade and the attackers will move on.

In short.. There is power in numbers, try to outnumber them and operate with light.

If you can't find enough support consider joining a church (or any group setting really). Like I said they don't have to share your beliefs or even be aware of them, its the companionship that matters.


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: Nemodeus]
    #22431513 - 10/25/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wonderful answer; thank you for writing this.
Peace and love,
J

Incidentally, I had a very good dream about one of my oldest best friends... he was very happy to see me, and saw me from a long, long ways off - and called, and came and we were walking...  We were walking by some water, and with our feet in the sand...  It was transcendental, and very great.

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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22434697 - 10/26/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Basic white magick, its a shame so few grasp it. :shrug:


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: Nemodeus]
    #22436456 - 10/26/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Care to elaborate?


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #22436489 - 10/26/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There is power in numbers, but holding love and compassion and empathy for your attackers and even a little sympathy aligned you with the light of all which means you are already with numbers. The individual with heart shines brighter than populations of darkness in opposition.  There is no fight at somepoint, there is only them attacking and you simply being and caring and waiting. Removing one self from half the battle removes the battle.


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: nuentoter]
    #22436513 - 10/26/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What if they're using demonic curses and feeding off your energy?


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: Shining Cosmos] * 1
    #22436727 - 10/26/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I will share one thing i learned. . . a while back, i spent a long while in the forest, meditating. . . mostly without any books or writing -- this was very nice; as they say, spending time without words or thoughts can be very spiritual..  and, a lot of teachers emphasize it as a spiritual goal.  When i came back home, though, i learned something new -- and, on this precise topic.  It may seem too easy or simple -- but then going full circle - simply reading a book. . . can be a very great defense on this topic.  it's along the lines of the previous things - part of it is, you simply have that as a defense..

I should say perhaps; the reason I called it going full circle is -- a significant part of the spiritual path, for many, is to experience life on your own -- free from books, because you have full faith in yourself. . . many wrote about this -- Dogen, Whitman, McKenna, and quite a few others.

Though a lot can be learned from books -- more so, when one is awakened -- self-faith is primary and pre-supposes anything else we put our faith in -- we have faith in ourself, first, before choosing anything external.

Mckenna wrote it nicely, he said, 'No one is smarter than you; And if they are, what of it?  What good is their understanding doing you?'

This also breaks through the idea that one should read instead of write -- it is far better, in fact, generally, to write instead of read. . . and I have learned - if you love someone, you share this with them generally - write!  Your stories are what are beautiful.  And it can awaken so much in them.

Another factor is -- we are writing our stories..  Not a character in a book, by external events, but we're holding the pen - writing the story..  it's a whole other dimension, basically. 


So - self-faith, and so forth -- and if you get there; you'll pretty much be free, from those who never get there...  who think that reading is better than writing, because others' knowledge is better than what they have, already - in their heart. . . . etc.


And -- at least I can say -- I went through a little while, of, just -- why don't people wake up? type of thing. . . hehe. . .


and -- there is much else too!  But these are some basic ones.


So that, self -faith, writing is better than reading - and things like this, are very powerful ideas -- they bring your power back to you -- as you don't give it away; and so forth.  It's the natural thing.

Also -- it also awakened, in me at least, a lot of understanding, in various things-- so this is why i share self-faith, share it as the main thing for achieving anything --  and then of course, wisdom is very important too -- because, well, being able isn't the whole thing -- there is also kindness, love, and so forth, and many other important things-- wisdom, creativity and the rest. . .


this is, a lot of these, are the keys to creativity -- at least, I have found. . . there are those who are flowing geniuses, this is sort of, the step by step approach.. and so forth.


Anyway - so that is significant; having faith in yourself, and the rest -- and being able to meditate, concentrate and the rest is so useful --


but as I mentioned, I learned; coming full circle -- after one has accomplished a lot of those things -- creativity, being free of persuasion and the rest -- then, if one encounters anything like what's described above,  Just reading a pleasant fantasy novel or something like this can be a defense...

If any is necessary;  and of course -- selectivity in what one reads, listens to, and the rest, is always good!


Duck and cover, generally a good one; and as Nemodeus wrote, well her / his answer was very excellent, and nuentotor's too, naturally. 

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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22437094 - 10/26/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Feed away, if all I project is positive love and compassion it can only raise the wavelength of it all. Only do good.
I have infinite love within me and only need to (real)ize it.


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #22437611 - 10/26/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Shining Cosmos said:
Care to elaborate?



I can try, but I suspect it wont be well received.

Black magick utilizes the power of darkness (deceit, fear, hatred, anger, etc..)

White magick utilizes the power of light (sincerity, courage, love, happiness, etc..)

Equal and opposite as they are, they tend to cancel each other out.

These powers are everywhere and utilized (at least subconsciously) by everyone, a constant battle. Its all nature.

Magick is just nature hacking. Learning how these things work, how they interact, and putting it to practical use. The elaborate rituals most practitioners use are a form of self programming, whether they know it or not. A way to influence the subconscious mind to get results that the distracted conscious mind can't.

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Shining Cosmos said:
What if they're using demonic curses and feeding off your energy?




Demons are lies, the only power they posses comes from within the summoner. They are the result when the inner darkness escapes to take form of its own. They manipulate and deceive the summoner into believing they are of assistance, those who do not know their own power know no better. To fear demons is to fear others on equal ground.

Curses and energy vampirism are just darkness, nothing that cannot be overcome with equal and opposite light. The problem most people have is that they lend the external darkness too much credit while underestimating the power of the light within, and in this way work against themselves.

Thus the obvious solution is distraction while bathing in light. Whether it be ones own light or the light of others makes no difference, but it comes back to distractions. Its often easier to find and maintain the light in those around you than it is to find and maintain it within, especially when under attack. That's part of the power of numbers, having a place to fallback to.


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: Nemodeus]
    #22452196 - 10/30/15 04:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

my advice is black tourmaline and basic shielding
as well as physical distance

i hang w/ witches a lot and sometimes they get mad
gotta be able to create personal stasis and keep it no matter what they throw ur way


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #22452679 - 10/30/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What if they're using demonic curses and feeding off your energy?





I personally completely disagree that you just stand there while they molest you. You fight back. Hence the saying: "Praise the lord and pass the ammunition"

I have been more or less constantly under psychic attacks for more than 15 years. And yes i did fought back. I still standing. But i feel worn out, this has to end soon.


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: nuentoter]
    #22452691 - 10/30/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

nuentoter said:
Feed away, if all I project is positive love and compassion it can only raise the wavelength of it all. Only do good.
I have infinite love within me and only need to (real)ize it.





What if your in pain?


For example this mystic i employed to help me remove negative entities, i sent him my photo.... few months later he turned on me and started attacking me via my photo - it felt like someone was trying to hammer a nail into my head, nos so powerfull... but painful nevertheless...

So what would you do? Go walk away and suffer these attacks? I fought back using ancient non Earth language which i pulled out of photon band and he stopped attacking me.


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: desant]
    #22452694 - 10/30/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: desant]
    #22452706 - 10/30/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No days they attack me with streams of negative energy which evokes huge ammount of anxiety, panic and paranoia in me.

I have a doctor. Yes, i tell him all these things... he listens... but other than some leaflets to  battle anxiety and putting me on heavy anti psychotic drugs he helps no further!

These days i am surviving only by consuming etizolam and some alcohol.

A lot of things have changed since 10 years ago... now demons use people - the cabal to hunt me too.

Now my problems are more physical than spiritual - demons fucked me up good - they limited my power / energy to about 5 %  - i cant work out in the gym, i cant run, i cant physically defend myself, no weapons of any kind - all this gives way to anxiety - it feels like pouring boiling water on my skin sometimes, if it wasnt for etizolam (thank God its still legal), i wouldnt even leave my house.:frown:


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Re: Black witches and psychic attacks [Re: desant]
    #22452740 - 10/30/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I hear you.  I've been a part of an ongoing operation by spirits to turn me into a drone in my own home.  At one point they had more control over me.  They could literally move my body.

Now they mostly feed off of me like my spine and the back of my head are being sucked on by a system of leeches that feed into other energy systems.  That and they pull up on the top of the head and it feels like my mind is being lifted out of my brain.  Feels like I'm going insane.

I fight with them constantly.


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