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Divine Love vs. Egoic Love 2
#22425505 - 10/24/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Egoic love means I will tell you, you are special if you tell me I am special. It works wonders for a while then it collapses because it is based on a lie. One false move and the imperfection is revealed and the search continues for the perfection OUT THERE rather than internally.
Once you recognize The Other as Divine, you cannot unrecognize it as in an egoic relationship. The Other need not be or do anything to please you or to add to your power. Their being alone is sufficient unto itself.
In an egoic relationship, The Other must prove to you time and again how worthy they are by boosting your esteem, by bringing you pleasure and novelty. This cannot continue indefinitely. It is an impossibility. At some point, if one cannot find another to take them to the assumed next level of stimulation and personality stroking, they give up and settle. This is the beginning of death.
The alternate path is that of recognizing The Divine in Others. That alone is sufficient. Nothing need be added. No personality quirks or shortcomings can change this because The Other is no longer being judged. Their radiance has been witnessed.
That which has been Seen cannot be unseen. And when one sees The Divine in themselves, they no longer need approach The Other as a beggar. "Kind sir/madam, can you please fill this empty hole inside of me."
No! Only once you are full and complete can you come to The Other seeking neither power nor dominance, but only sharing authentically, honestly and fully.
Do that and ALL questions are answered. Not answered as in cosmic mysteries solved, but as in the questions themselves fall away and are no longer important.
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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (10/24/15 12:57 AM)
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MMG
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I agree with this perception on love. Nice post
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Re: Divine Love vs. Egoic Love [Re: MMG]
#22425525 - 10/24/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Many members predicted that one day I would cross-over from the skeptic side to the fluffy side. Uh oh!
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presentusthefuture
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Phenomenal post.
And as a slight tangent, this is why you can either choose women, or you can choose God. But not both.
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said: Egoic love means I will tell you, you are special if you tell me I am special. It works wonders for a while then it collapses because it is based on a lie. One false move and the imperfection is revealed and the search continues for the perfection OUT THERE rather than internally.
Once you recognize The Other as Divine, you cannot unrecognize it as in an egoic relationship. The Other need not be or do anything to please you or to add to your power. Their being alone is sufficient unto itself.
In an egoic relationship, The Other must prove to you time and again how worthy they are by boosting your esteem, by bringing you pleasure and novelty. This cannot continue indefinitely. It is an impossibility. At some point, if one cannot find another to take them to the assumed next level of stimulation and personality stroking, they give up and settle. This is the beginning of death.
The alternate path is that of recognizing The Divine in Others. That alone is sufficient. Nothing need be added. No personality quirks or shortcomings can change this because The Other is no longer being judged. Their radiance has been witnessed.
That which has been Seen cannot be unseen. And when one sees The Divine in themselves, they no longer need approach The Other as a beggar. "Kind sir/madam, can you please fill this empty hole inside of me."
No! Only once you are full and complete can you come to The Other seeking neither power nor dominance, but only sharing authentically, honestly and fully.
Do that and ALL questions are answered. Not answered as in cosmic mysteries solved, but as in the questions themselves fall away and are no longer important.
I have begun to think such a realization is actually a rationalization meant for the ego to protect itself from attachment and to be satisfied with the denial of ID desires.
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Re: Divine Love vs. Egoic Love [Re: TameMe]
#22426213 - 10/24/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Love. It's what makes a Subaru a Subaru.
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Re: Divine Love vs. Egoic Love [Re: Dark_Star]
#22426218 - 10/24/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can certainly get better traction with AWD.
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Did you write that?
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OrgoneConclusion said: Egoic love means I will tell you, you are special if you tell me I am special. It works wonders for a while then it collapses because it is based on a lie. One false move and the imperfection is revealed and the search continues for the perfection OUT THERE rather than internally.
Once you recognize The Other as Divine, you cannot unrecognize it as in an egoic relationship. The Other need not be or do anything to please you or to add to your power. Their being alone is sufficient unto itself.
In an egoic relationship, The Other must prove to you time and again how worthy they are by boosting your esteem, by bringing you pleasure and novelty. This cannot continue indefinitely. It is an impossibility. At some point, if one cannot find another to take them to the assumed next level of stimulation and personality stroking, they give up and settle. This is the beginning of death.
The alternate path is that of recognizing The Divine in Others. That alone is sufficient. Nothing need be added. No personality quirks or shortcomings can change this because The Other is no longer being judged. Their radiance has been witnessed.
That which has been Seen cannot be unseen. And when one sees The Divine in themselves, they no longer need approach The Other as a beggar. "Kind sir/madam, can you please fill this empty hole inside of me."
No! Only once you are full and complete can you come to The Other seeking neither power nor dominance, but only sharing authentically, honestly and fully.
Do that and ALL questions are answered. Not answered as in cosmic mysteries solved, but as in the questions themselves fall away and are no longer important.
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Re: Divine Love vs. Egoic Love [Re: yeah]
#22429936 - 10/24/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah said: Did you write that?
I have officially crossed over. 
Blame it on a woman.
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Mojo baby!
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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yeah said: Did you write that?
I have officially crossed over. 
Blame it on a woman.
I don't think it's her fault, this time.
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you used to be cool.
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Re: Divine Love vs. Egoic Love [Re: White Beard]
#22431117 - 10/25/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:
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yeah said: Did you write that?
I have officially crossed over. 
Blame it on a woman.
Is this woman the one we are familiar with or a new one?
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Re: Divine Love vs. Egoic Love [Re: cez]
#22431245 - 10/25/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Same story; new chapter. Available at Amazon.com for $19.95 hardcover edition.
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How much signed?
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What does "The Divine" look like?
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