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fusion tek tapanensis grow opinions needed
    #22424767 - 10/23/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hello everybody I am a longtime creeper on the forum and this is probably my first serious post but please don't take my lack of posts pics or otherwise meaningless drivel to make me seem like an amateur I'm now doing a all-natural tek for psilocybin TAM P a and ENS IS where I took horse manure leached it then soaked in water overnight this was done hoping to drown all the unwanted macro organisms e.g. Those dreaded fungus gnats ect then dried it and hydrated it again, so far it's is going good, most of the containers are sealed so I haven't looked at then , but I have seen spring tails and a small amount of sprouting grass seed in the substrate, so I'm looking at three options, let it run is course, as most psilocybes are omnivorous and will consume the spring tails and sprouts after they die, or open all the containers, pick out the sprouts, and then fill the containers with co2 to kill all the macro life while leaving the mycelium intact, or just pick out the sprouts,  opinions ideas and criticism are all welcome pics are included once I get to a real computer, I'm posting from my phone so apologies if my spelling and grammar aren't prefect, will update with pics and more info in under 48 hours,


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Re: fusion tek tapanensis grow opinions needed [Re: safralasis]
    #22424821 - 10/23/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm kinda lost...

I think there are details missing.

Pasteurization or sterilization?

What else is in this substrate?

I've never heard of substrate growing sprouts before.


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Re: fusion tek tapanensis grow opinions needed [Re: micro]
    #22425174 - 10/23/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: fusion tek tapanensis grow opinions needed [Re: safralasis]
    #22425177 - 10/23/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

neither was used


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Re: fusion tek tapanensis grow opinions needed [Re: safralasis]
    #22425267 - 10/23/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

neither was used its just leached horse manure than i soaked in water for about 20 hours, the water was hot aboy 100f for a hour or two , but what im trying to do is kill the unwanted macro organism's without harming or disturbing the micro organisms in any way , im trying to bypass pasteurization by getting rid of the macros , essentially in theory its a outdoor grow that's being done inside , e.g. you take a plain naturally field leched/ dried horse Patties, which would be good to just hydrate and put spawn into except for the macro / macro organism egg's. then i warm soaked and dried these patties to kill all the macros that would harm the mycelium (hopefully) so basically i just scooped up substrate from outside , thought hmmm if i can keep the whole micro ecosystem intact (as much as possible ) then its only the macro creatures i have to worry about , and to my knowledge 95-99 percent of them require oxygen then i drown then lightly bake and then seal the survivors into a container with a omnivorous fungus that will take all the 02 for itself and consume them ,


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Re: fusion tek tapanensis grow opinions needed [Re: safralasis]
    #22425320 - 10/23/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Never done it that way; not gonna knock it though. It could work :shrug:

From the looks seems good so far.

Only thing -- keeping CO2 in and O2 out in is not beneficial for the fungi.


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Re: fusion tek tapanensis grow opinions needed [Re: safralasis]
    #22429370 - 10/24/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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safralasis said:
neither was used its just leached horse manure than i soaked in water for about 20 hours, the water was hot aboy 100f for a hour or two , but what im trying to do is kill the unwanted macro organism's without harming or disturbing the micro organisms in any way , im trying to bypass pasteurization by getting rid of the macros , essentially in theory its a outdoor grow that's being done inside , e.g. you take a plain naturally field leched/ dried horse Patties, which would be good to just hydrate and put spawn into except for the macro / macro organism egg's. then i warm soaked and dried these patties to kill all the macros that would harm the mycelium (hopefully) so basically i just scooped up substrate from outside , thought hmmm if i can keep the whole micro ecosystem intact (as much as possible ) then its only the macro creatures i have to worry about , and to my knowledge 95-99 percent of them require oxygen then i drown then lightly bake and then seal the survivors into a container with a omnivorous fungus that will take all the 02 for itself and consume them ,




It looks really good so far. I did something earlier this summer that is actualy the exact opposite of what you are doing--I sterilized some composted grass clippings and then, using my bare hands, mixed a quart of myceliated rye grain into the mass of sterilized compost. I made a post about it and a lot of experienced people predicted disaster--because I had sterilized the substrate and then NOT used sterile technique when introducing the spawn. I was pretty sure myself that it would be disastrous. But the grow turned out fine.

You are now in a similar situation in that you are going crosswise to the accepeted line of procedure (needless to say, this mode of operation  usually ends badly). Maybe you will luck out too.


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Re: fusion tek tapanensis grow opinions needed [Re: champinhom]
    #22469481 - 11/03/15 04:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Never done it that way; not gonna knock it though. It could work :shrug:

From the looks seems good so far.

Only thing -- keeping CO2 in and O2 out in is not beneficial for the fungi.


ya the ones I let airflow to are doing really well I just cased them with with richy hawks 50/50 casing tek, Just wondering should I let the tubes sit for a day or two or put them directly into yore fc


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Re: fusion tek tapanensis grow opinions needed [Re: safralasis]
    #22469484 - 11/03/15 04:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Add if anyone has any tips to share, I've never done tapanesis before


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Re: fusion tek tapanensis grow opinions needed [Re: safralasis]
    #23213813 - 05/11/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

well it worked , but the caps didnt open fully so i was unable to make spore prints , but they got nice and tall, but not spindly they were overall looking good except for the caps , sorry i have no later pics of them at full height


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