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OfflineOmegaRed
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Removing jars from pc early.
    #2242439 - 01/14/04 08:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, first off I know that this question gets asked every 5 minutes, but I've never seen any conclusive argument for one side or the other. I have 6 1/2 pint PF jars and am waiting for them to cool in the PC so I can PC the next 6. I've been told (from someone on the forum) that it is ok to remove whole grain jars early so they can be shaken to ensure that the substrate won't stick together. I was planning on taking the jars (which have foil on them) and taking them out of the PC (they have been cooling for 3 hours) and transfering them directly into a container that has been sterilized with iso-alcohol and lysol spray around the area. Anyone got an opinion on this?


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Re: Removing jars from pc early. [Re: OmegaRed]
    #2242703 - 01/14/04 10:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I was planning on taking the jars (which have foil on them) and taking them out of the PC (they have been cooling for 3 hours) and transfering them directly into a container that has been sterilized with iso-alcohol and lysol spray around the area. Anyone got an opinion on this?




just take those jars out of the pc and shake em up! always shake yer jars when they are hot for max shakeability...

you don't need to fuck with all those other containers and lysol and shit just shake well noc and incubate.


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Re: Removing jars from pc early. [Re: simplemachine]
    #2242751 - 01/14/04 11:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

uh im no genius but i think 3 hours might be a little quick to innoculate... that is still gonna be damn hot and that can't be good for the spores


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Re: Removing jars from pc early. [Re: MikeHuntShrooms]
    #2242921 - 01/15/04 01:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

as SOON as they get done in the pc take em out and break em up. shake em up so it's all nice and easy to shake, like when you first put it in the jar. let them sit for 6hrs + then shoot.


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Re: Removing jars from pc early. [Re: OmegaRed]
    #2242995 - 01/15/04 01:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

OK Omega...since you are doing PF style jars...Dont shake LOL, secondly its fine to take them out whilst hot and transfer to a sterile container to cool, thridly wait a good 6-8 hours before inoculation so you can be sure the substrate in the jars has cooled COMPLETLEY. Dont wanna screw up a good thing by not letting them cool off enough.
Hope that helps.


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Re: Removing jars from pc early. [Re: GregHimself]
    #2243038 - 01/15/04 02:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for all the input. I am doing PF jars today and am planning on doing some popcorn pints tomorrow. This is only the second time I have tried whole grains and the last time was a tragic failure. I think I nailed the problem though so I hope it will go better this time (the jars were in a closed area that had a draft that I didn't notice until all jars were contaminated, this time they are going in a tupperware container).


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Re: Removing jars from pc early. [Re: OmegaRed]
    #2243088 - 01/15/04 02:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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OK Omega...since you are doing PF style jars...Dont shake LOL[/qoute]

Yes very true shaking would disrupt the dry verm layer.

you can get much faster colonizaion using pf cakes by using polyfill no dry verm and shaking to distribute the myc as it grows.


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